1997 Toyota Camry CSI 2.2L 4 cylinder

Summary:

I wouldn't sell this to my mother in law

Faults:

I don't know where to start, but here it goes:

Replaced all suspension, $750 (would bounce all over the road).

Timing belt installed, $300.

Rack and pinion, $650.

All engine mounts, $500 (how do all of them need replacing at once?)

Rear door inside "broke off" door replaced, $250.

Air con re-gas, $300.

General Comments:

One month after I had those things done, now the auto is playing up, and it's leaking coolant. Also don't drive it to fast because the wind will blow the paint right off the car!

The cabin is made of cheap plastic and is easily sun damaged.

The engine is dangerously slow when the car is full of people and hard to work on.

I bought the car for Toyota reliability, and that is the last thing I've had with this car.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 3rd April, 2009

5th Apr 2009, 01:45

The timing belt change and air-con re-gas are basically routine maintenance. Previous owners can skimp on this stuff if they know they are about to sell the car, which is fine, as long as you know and buy the car for a cheaper price as a result.

Engine mounts and some suspension pieces will eventually need replacing too with age, though they could be a result of the previous owner's abuse of the car. I'm guessing the car has done over 200K kms?

Is yours a V6 or 2.2? Both engines should be pretty reliable. Is it the your model 1993-1997 or 1997-2002?

13th Apr 2009, 21:57

It's the late model 1997 through to 2000 with 140 000 km on the clock. Relatively low I thought.

22nd Jan 2010, 15:30

5-speed M/T makes a huge difference vs. automatic. But even with M/T it's a bit slow.

1997 Toyota Camry Conquest 3.0i V6

Summary:

Alright, but wouldn't buy another Camry. Next car might be a V8 Holden Calais, Ford G6T. More power!

Faults:

Sometimes stalls on start-up during hot weather.

Gearbox is hard to change out of 2nd when cold.

Motor revs at 1900rpm on first start of the day (not sure if all Camrys do this)

Motor is always under powered in terms of torque, especially when towing a 6 by 4 trailer... even when empty. It isn't a good car for towing.

Not gutsy below 2500rpm.

Has to be revved out to 3000-4000rpm to perform well. But then it used way too much petrol.

Fuel consumption not that great for a 3 litre motor. Around 450-520km per tank.

Timing belt failed at 155,640km. Needed replacing.

Rear standard suspension was too soft, causing the car to handle badly. Easily fixed by replacing it.

Door seals leaked water in.

Gearbox whines and howls during slow city traffic.

Brakes were rather spongy and faded lots after a few pumps on them (or when they got hot anyway).

Mountain driving is not fun in this car, because going up hills you were constantly changing down gears (when loaded with 4 people)

Motor ran roughly on petrol below 95RON.

Front motor mounts recently replaced.

All 4 shock absorbers replaced.

Power steering pump replaced due to failure (mechanics did not know why).

Aircon has recently been re-gassed but has never been good anyway.

Interior not of high quality. Fabric on doors receded.

General Comments:

Generally somewhat reliable.

Freeway driving was a breeze.

Speed build up was generally not too slow, but needed to be revved hard to do this. Initial 0-100 times were 8.2 with no wheel spin.

My wife likes driving the car because she thinks it's easy to drive and it really is. It is also very comfortable in the drivers seat.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 14th March, 2008

1997 Toyota Camry CSi 3.0L V6 petrol

Summary:

Most comfortable car I have ever driven

Faults:

* Window tinting in poor condition upon purchase - 145K.

* Dog Bone Engine Mount - 170K

* Fabric starting to come away from door inserts - 170K.

* Power steering pump seals - 180K

* Tappet cover gasket - 180K.

* Rear suspension required replacement at 195K. Should have been done earlier as it was original, but not a bad effort!

* Paint on spoiler fading - 200K.

* CV Boots starting to look in poor condition - 205K

* Remote battery (keyless entry) died and cannot replace battery. Bought new remote and reprogrammed myself - 205K.

As you can see, nothing that isn't really routine maintenance. The spoiler is a fibreglass add-on (obviously installed after the car was purchased), and the rest of the body (external and internal) is immaculate. Cannot fault the engine and drivetrain.

General Comments:

I purchased this Camry on impulse, after the driveshaft on another car of ours suddenly snapped during a long highway roadtrip. It was a private sale, and I got quite a good deal as the owner had already purchased a new car and simply wanted to get rid of the old one. Has quite honestly been the best car I have ever bought; the only reason I am looking at upgrading it soon it simply due to age and km (206K, 10yrs).

The car has more than enough power for overtaking, but being the smaller V6 (ie smaller than Falcodores), it uses quite a bit less fuel. Furthermore, it is extremely comfortable, with very good seats and ride quality. The interior is still in good order, with the only problem being the door insert fabric starting to come away from the inserts themselves - have fixed a few times with spray glue, but starting to look tired.

Would average 9.3L/100km on the highway, up to around 11.5L/100km in town, usually sits around the 10.5L/100km for what we normally do (a bit of both). Has had regular long trips, and we do a 220+km round trip into the next city at least once per fortnight. Never had a days trouble to be quite honest - everything has been picked up during services etc, and fixed before it becomes an issue.

With Toyota servicing, you need to pick and choose what gets done sometimes, as there are some things that need to be done, and you need to buy Toyota parts, and others that you can get away with much more cheaply. For example, the Toyota platinum spark plugs are around $45 each (so $270 including fitting for all 6), but they last 100000km. However, a Toyota suspension bush can be around $85 - whereas a $25 Repco equivalent will do the same job! The dealer I have been dealing with isn't too bad - depends on who you get to deal with.

My only real complaint is that this Camry is the CSi - ie the ultimate base model. No airbags, no ABS, no cruise control, no electric windows etc etc; the safety features especially I would like to see more of. Next car will be a compact "fun" 4WD (most likely a 4 cylinder), however I believe that when the "family" comes along, it will be back to a Camry.

If anyone wants any more info / questions etc - don't hesitate to email me justfordantheman@gmail.com

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 4th October, 2007