1992 SAAB 9000 T turbo
Summary:
High performance Mommy car
Faults:
Traction Control System had problems, many covered by manufacturer. Took several years to iron out, and car would die "hard" when a new problem arose. This system has saved me from two incidents in which I know I would have crashed otherwise.
AC system had several issues, so I updated it to make current and eliminate freon.
I cracked the block -tried to make it off the freeway when low on coolant, and shouldn't have. Dealer replaced it at N/C, even though it was just out of warranty.
An engine cleaning place blew out my entire computer system (never have anyone except the dealer clean your engine is my advice) and dealer replaced EVERYTHING at n/c, even though they didn't have to.
Just replaced the clutch at 100100miles.
Exhaust system is complicated and expensive to replace!
My driver seats (both) no longer recline (@100000 miles), which is a pain, as it costs $1,200 each to buy a new Electronic Control Module.
General Comments:
I have had fantastic luck with the two dealers I have used to service the car. They have covered things that were outrageously expensive by extending the warranty when they could have tried to wiggle out of it.
This car is really fast - probably the fastest year for the 9000T. I have driven slower Porsches.
The console is neat, kind of like flying an airplane, but you do "feel" the road. IF you don't like to feel a pencil when you drive over it, this is not the car for you. Also, creaks and squeeks a bit, but the sound system is great.
Holds nearly anything. I have hauled full sized file cabinets, trees, furniture, etc. Easy to fold seats down to make room.
Look for the high perfomance tires that make the 9000T handle well at Costco; they can speacial order. You will save hundreds of $.
Whe it breaks down this is usually sudden - no warning. I get towed in for repairs at least once a year. 900T is expensive to repair, but the performance and stylish look of the car keeps me in it.
The dealer tells me that mine is the cleanest and best kept they have ever seen - I detail it regularly to keep it fresh and fun to get into. I will keep it until a new car has more appeal. I drive the new Saabs regularly when I get mine serviced, but so far, mine is still the speediest and most responsive.
Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes
Review Date: 9th March, 2003
11th Apr 2001, 15:30
I bought a 1992 Saab 9000 with 95.5k about a month ago. So far, I'm on the replacement rampage... The big checkpoint is the 95000 mile major maintenance check.
All of the following has died before 97k... which makes me think the used car dealer I bought it from was a weasel, and just fixed everything enough so that it wouldn't break until 2 weeks after I bought it... but besides that between 96k and 97k miles (within the last month) -- I have replaced:
(prices include parts & labor ($60/hr) )
1) left and right ball joints - $200
2) central exhaust pipe - $300
3) * driver side lock cylinder - $45
4) * fog lights & wires - $50
5) * flushed/refilled coolant - $25
6) * changed oil - $15
7) * flushed & bled brake system - $10
8) * flushed & bled hydraulic sys - $10
9) Seals leaking oil, replaced - $80
10) Clutch replaced - $900
11) Traction Control Sys replaced - $650
12) * TCS Control Valve - $35
13) * NGK Spark Plugs - $10.
Grand Total: $2330...
I paid $7300 for the car and it blue booked at about $9300. I've now spent my limit on it. Hopefully it holds for a while.
The body of the car is in good shape, with rust on the bottom of the doors (inside)... Along the tops of the doors (outside), around the back license plate and in the front of the hood. I've been looking for a little plastic guard for the front of the hood, to keep the chips/rust from coming back, once I get the rust removed (another weekend project)...
So far the car has been a money pit, but it's an amazingly smooth ride. I would recommend 92 octane fuel... I have been using Texaco and getting about 26mpg in heavy city driving (54mi/day commute).
Please please please, remember to bleed/flush your brake fluid every 20k-25k miles / 2 years... This car never had the hydraulic system flushed and therefore, when it was flushed the gunk that was holding the clutch slave cylinder seals together gave and caused the clutch to start leaking... not good... result; new clutch. If the system was maintained properly (... dealers don't flush the system, because they're lazy... if they don't flush the system every 20k+ miles, then when the maintenance book wants it flushed at 95k, the clutch gives out... hence, the problem I experienced occurs. Whenever I would have flushed the system, I would have needed to buy a new clutch... at least that's what the mechanic said... he said he's seen this before in cars he's bled...) then this problem wouldn't have occurred.
If people have questions or comments, please feel free to email them to me at ryan@nospam.sinn.org --- remove the "nospam." from the address.
Ryan.