1998 Alfa Romeo 166 Lusso 3.0 V6

Summary:

Lovely car, always a pleasure to drive

Faults:

Regular repairs to both front and back suspension.

All windows condensate badly.

Uneven tyre wear can be a problem.

General Comments:

Excellent power through the rev range. Use the sport mode and it's just extremely quick.

Eats up the miles on a long journey, and very comfortable.

Fuel consumption is not bad for car of its size; 27 miles to the gallon is what I have been getting. Alfa only say 22.6.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 20th January, 2009

2000 Alfa Romeo 166 Lusso 3.0 Sportronic Auto 3.0V6 24valve Auto

Summary:

Fantastic Car - Get one!!!

Faults:

ZF Power Steering Hose burst at 42000mls.

Horrible fix, very difficult to replace. only €40 for part from Alfa, but 4 hours labour! (ZF power steering system made in Germany)

Heated Front Seats on/off Switch broken on both seats (Made in Germany) No damage, just needs replacement. €40ea from Alfa, easy fix.

General Comments:

Fantastic car to drive and own.

Great performance, reasonable fuel consumption for size.

Great handling. Fantastic direct steering, great road grip and feel. Can really plaster it around bends, will slide predictably - no over_steer. Torque steer is very manageable and composed. Fantastic breaking.

Does not like bad, bumpy roads due to limited ground clearance. (same as average family car) Tends to bottom and scrape the belly on bad bumps and pot holes.

The TCS Electronic Traction Control System is not fitted to my car for some reason, so if you accellerate violently, the car will spin the wheels freely until you back off the throttle! Kinda fun sometimes...

Winter/ city mode. Irritating sometimes because it activates automatically with no warning or any indication. There is no indication to tell the driver it is now activated and in winter/city mode. The only way to know is when you pull off, the car pulls off in 2nd gear instead of 1st. This seems to happen after having lost traction on bad road surface or a pot hole. The only way to override the winter/city mode is to drive in sport mode or manual sequential mode. The system will reset once you stop the engine and start it again.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 19th March, 2006

2001 Alfa Romeo 166 Lusso 2.0 petrol

Summary:

I like it more and more as time passes

Faults:

I had the timing belt changed when acquired at 35k, essential! Done by independent specialist, also essential!

Rear brake caliper off side is stuck, but it still passed the NCT (MOT). I will repair this myself.

Window button loose, but still works.

Rain sensor wipers don't really work, I will just disconnect this and work on manual intermittent.

Uses very little oil compared to other twin sparks I have read/heard about.

In short, nothing of any real note has gone wrong.

It might not be Toyota reliable, but this particular model really has no vices (PROVIDED you change the timing belt every 35k or three years, and check the oil every week until you learn its appetite for oil).

General Comments:

LOVE this car a lot. I had not owned another Alfa, but I appreciate now what owners describe as the tremendous charm of the make; my car is growing on me all the time, the ride and handling are so tight and precise (for a big saloon you understand, this is not a rally car) while the car is never uncomfortable. Be aware however that you have to like paying constant attention to your driving. There is some torque steer that needs care when you boot it in second. The tight steering ratio is intended for enthusiastic driving rather than half asleep executive cruising.

There is almost no understeer, in fact I almost miss the ability to understeer and lift-off oversteer I had with the old Mondeo. This car just corners neutrally, if you accelerate in a corner it just goes faster with very little change of line or attitude.

With the lighter 2.0 petrol, the car feels very balanced and competent; I believe the 3.0 and the diesels are much heavier in the nose.

Turning circle is too big; you really must plan your turns very carefully with lots of nods and waves to other drivers. Park with care.

The engine is a furious sweet cracker. The car is perhaps a little big for this engine, and the engine does have to work hard for its keep, but it is just so addictively rev happy that it never complains. In second and third gear, between 3500 and 6000 (my self imposed redline), it feels enormously powerful, more than the power figures would suggest. It can potter around town at 1500 - 2000 comfortably, but it needs to be at 2500 - 3000 to take off. You rarely feel that the engine wants you to change up, rather it loves to be given its head. Fifth and sixth gears are overdrives only.

It engine sounds utterly beautiful, without any boy racer offence to anyone outside the car.

The 17 inch wheels look great, but 16 inches might actually be better in terms of real world fast driving on rough roads. The 225 width tyres do however bring a lot to the roadholding. With the 17s, there is a little vibration from the road that car wears on you if you are not in the mood.

Interior is so beautiful in light grey leather and black, that if the car was written off, I would want to transfer it to another! In fact if I had the space, I think I would buy another first generation 166 just to have as a future replacement!

Only a cross waist seatbelt in the centre rear. The rear seat is really designed for two rather than three.

The main mechanicals, bodywork and interior are all very solid looking and feeling.

If you like large drivers cars and don't care about cupholders, large turning circles, and a few surprises from the torque steer, then this is a very very good value second hand car.

I look forward to every opportunity to drive it.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 3rd November, 2005