1997 Ford Scorpio Ultima 2.3 petrol

Summary:

If only it was better looking

Faults:

Mostly electronic niggles were the main pain, temperature and fuel gauge were inaccurate, had to get an auto-electrician to sort it out. Electric mirrors were slow to move, and the windows later in life.

Mechanically, brakes, suspension, exhaust and all the usual stuff was replaced at MOT's over the time I had the car on the road.

Bodywork there was cosmetic rust around the arches, but I kept on top of it preventing it from getting worse.

Servicing was carried out to the letter, the car was looked after as much as possible. Engine and transmission were pretty solid and rarely gave any trouble, there was a slight coolant leak though, replaced pipe and that was sorted.

General Comments:

Well, I was one of those people that slated this cars looks when it came out in the mid 1990's. It is pretty ugly, and oddly enough a lot of people call it stylish as well, but they must be being sarcastic. Mind you, a lot of cars are ugly now, so it does not look too out of place.

My very late R registered 1997 model is the face lifted version, which is an improvement. They moved the Ford badge into the middle grille and darkened the bug eye headlights. Still ugly, but improved enough to make me buy it. The car from the side and back however is OK looking, typical of most executive cars from this era. Best suited in darker colours. Alloy wheels are nice.

Inside is absolutely gorgeous and where this car shines. Ultima is top spec, electric everything and the black leather seats are among the most comfortable I ever sat on, even better than my previous Vauxhall Omega, which had leather also. The Ford is as good in all areas, with acres of space.

The 2.3 petrol is no racing car, but will get you were you want to go. Auto box acceleration is lethargic, and only manages 30 MPG if you drive very slow. 27 MPG is more likely with traffic. Awful by today's standard, but typical of bigger petrol cars back in the day. Would have loved the bigger 2.9i 6 cylinder models, they do roughly the same economy with better performance. Handling is OK for the car's size.

It is essentially kept as a second car now for me, when I got it years ago for a very nice price I was already planning on garaging it for summer use only, but have put considerable mileage on it. It has been relatively inexpensive to repair, if you know an ex Ford mechanic to help you out and source parts. I believe the biggest problem with this car was its looks and the depreciation back in the day, and general higher running costs killed it off. But had this car been better looking, and a bit more reliable it may have been a genuine contender to the German brands in the executive market. Its main rival really was the Vauxhall Omega though, which as my previous car I can tell you there is little in it between them, just depends what you prefer.

Not many left on the road; advice to anyone buying one is obviously find a looked after one, and you'll have a nice comfortable car for cruising in. Go for the bigger engines and better specifications. Mine is sitting in my garage now off the road, can't wait for next summer, will easily pass its MOT and be back on the road!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 4th November, 2020

20th Jan 2023, 16:25

It wouldn't have mattered if it was a better car to be fair - the German giants BMW, Mercedes and Audi dominated this segment regardless, they did back then and still do now.

I doubt we will ever see a luxury/executive boxy shaped saloon from Ford or Vauxhall ever again. Closest you can get now is a top of the range Mondeo or Insignia, and even those are going out of production soon...

20th Jan 2023, 20:50

The moment the German prestige brands became more accessible, the market for an executive mainstream brand disappeared. When the Mercedes 200 cost nearly half as much more as a base Granada, then there was a lot of substance in getting the Ford - or for that matter, similar cars like the Vauxhall Carlton, Renault 25, Fiat Argenta, etc. But when the Mercedes 190 and BMW 3-series came to spitting distance of a Mondeo, unless you absolutely needed the space, you might as well have tried out what used to be forbidden fruit to the masses; you either liked it or didn't, but you could now afford to try it. And while mainstream brands have now gone straight for crossovers or pseudo-SUV body styles and dumped poor-selling sedans, the upmarket Germans still offer sedans, which still sell in significant numbers.

22nd Jan 2023, 15:43

Correct. I myself had many of these cars back in the day circa 1980s/early 1990s (Vauxhall Carlton/Senator, Rover 800, Ford Granada) and now drive a BMW 5 series (a modern 2013 car); it is of course ultimately better, but very expensive to run, and I do miss when you could get cars like this for relatively cheap.

I do know someone who keeps a 1998 BMW 7 series as a second car for weekend use only. Modern enough to be a use-able classic, but not old enough yet to value with nostalgia I would say. Still it is a very nice car and a step up again from the executives; I would say it is a luxury car, cheaper only now to buy used, and the mid range modern execs like the 5 series offer very close to it, but not quite the same thing, even on cars generations apart from the same manufacturer.

1997 Ford Scorpio Executive 24v 2.9 V6 Cosworth

Summary:

A proper fast, refined luxury car from the FoMoCo

Faults:

Traction control failed, resulting in the car being in an accident. The auto gearbox was damaged as a result.

General Comments:

I had this car for about two months, and I have to say that I loved it.

We bought the car cheap on an impulse as my wife liked it. She drove the car more than me, as I had a motorbike at the time.

This is a very big car. I'm six foot tall, and I could sit comfortably in the back with the front seat all the way back. If you look at the side of the car, you will probably notice that the rear doors are slightly longer then the front. The seats were massive and squishy and comfy, and the interior is a lovely place to be.

My car was not the Ultima model, but an Executive, and the 1st owner must have ticked all of the options boxes. It had Recaro electric leather and alcantara seats, 10-disc CD, premium stereo (I counted twelve speakers), dual zone automatic air conditioning climate control, all round electrics, heated front screen, auto gearbox, wood centre console, leather dash and door cards, chrome alloys, traction control, the lightest PAS ever, ABS, remote locking, remote boot release, a nifty gadget that dipped the passenger wing mirror when you put it into reverse, self-levelling suspension and headlights, automatic headlights, automatic wipers, multi-function computer, limited-slip differential, pearl silver paint that flipped to blue and green in the light, and some pretty well placed lights (on the inside of all four doors, in the door locks, under the sun visors, in the footwells, engine bay, four lights in the boot, individual lights in the cabin etc).

To drive it is amazing. Smooth, quiet, comfortable. I've been in Jags, Mercs, Beemers and a Rolls-Royce, and this was just as comfy, if not more comfy. Smooth, refined and fast. But you have got to watch yourself...

Travelling down the M1 one day, my wife driving, she was flashing the driver in front of her in the fast-lane to move over. He eventually moved over, and this was when I pointed out the speedo to her. She felt the car was doing about 75-80, but was in fact well into three figures. She then went red and looked embarrassed. I kid you not, this car makes the same noise at 100 as it does at 20. But that's just for starters.

The car had a 2.9 litre, Cosworth V6, which I was told develops "a lot" brake horsepower. Off the line it's not that great, hot-hatch quick 0-60, due to the auto box and the car's sheer girth. But, if the car is moving at more than 10mph, and you floor the throttle, the quiet hum from the front of the car turns into a beastly roar. The back end squats a bit, the traction control warning light blinks at you, and then the speedo needle shoots round VERY quickly. And this is without using the "Sport" mode on the gearbox. We used that mode once, joining a dual-carriageway, and the car went from 40 to 100 in the blink of an eye. Overtaking was just hilarious, going past two or three cars at a time with no bother. The mid-range punch was just great, and for the brief period I had the car, kickdown was my favorite game in the whole world.

I think the most surprising thing about the car was the way that it handled. It had fat 8 inch tyres on 16 inch alloys, so lots of grip, combined with the Limited Slip Diff at the back. But the self levelling suspension kept the car completely flat in the bends, just like the air-suspension on the Jag XJR. The car swept around bends nicely. Unfortunately, the traction control failed on the car while it was raining. My wife was driving, and coming from the Front Wheel Drive Crew, was unaware of the correct procedure for tail happiness. The car spun round and hit the kerb sideways, bending the rear axle and somehow destroying the gearbox. After the accident, the car wouldn't go past 10mph and the gears kept slipping out.

Anyway, the car. A lot of people feel that the Scorpio is ugly. I have to disagree now. At first, I didn't much care for the styling, but it grew on me. To be in, it is very pleasant, almost limo-like. The stereo was awesome, the seats comfy and the steering fluffy. The headlights were brilliant, and the auto climate control was great, especially being that the driver and passenger could have different temperature settings. Journeys were just a pleasant experience in this car. To steal a line from Jeremy Clarkson, it's like a big velvet glove that pick you up from where you are, and gently puts you down at your destination a short time later.

One driving characteristic that I must point out though, which was quite worrying. Due to the car's size, and the fact that ground clearance is surprisingly low, the car would sometimes scrape over high speed bumps or when pulling onto downward sloping driveways. It made some nasty noises.

Costs were negotiable. 20-25 mpg was the norm round town if you're gentle, dropping to 15-19 if you're not, 30-35 on the motorway (these figures from the cars computer). The tank is big, and I filled it up once from the fuel warning light being on with Optimax, which at the time was 97.9p. It cost me £67.00, and lasted 350 miles. Ouch! Tyres weren't that bad, but a new windscreen did sting me for £200 as I didn't have screen cover. I was 21 with 0 NCB when I had this car, and even though the size of the car was huge, the engine was huge and it was a fast car with a group 16 rating, I got fully comp cover for £620 with no extras (like windscreen cover...), so I was able to tell all my mates that I was 21 and drove a "Cossie" for less than £650 a year! Fun times.

This is a great family car, and the boot is huge. It once swallowed £150 worth of shopping from Asda, my Nan's wheelchair and cushions, and a load of junk that had collected in there as junk collects in car boots, with room to spare. Car boot sales were as easy as pie, and no-one ever complained about having to sit in the back.

The detailing on the car was great. The leather on the dash and door cards matched the leather on the Recaros; the interior door handles were chromed metal and cold to the touch, not shiny plastic; the tint on the windows at the back was darker than that on the front; and the armrest was big enough for two arms. The car really is a five seater, and all five people will have space and be comfy.

These cars can now be picked up for a song. I recently looked at a 1998 facelift Ultima with FFSH, 65,000 miles in fantastic condition (i.e NO RUST), taxed and tested with all of the options and all paperwork and manuals in Aubergine for £4,000. I was very tempted. It is a car I can recommend all the way. Find a good one, and look past the unusual styling. But make sure that you get one with the Cosworth engine, as the other motors are a bit weedy for the size of car (the Cosworth cars are listed as 2.9 24v cars, the 12v 2.9 develops far less bhp and isn't as refined). This car is every bit the luxury car that you'll get from any of the big prestige brands, but it'll only cost you Ford money.

If it hadn't had been crashed, and the repair bill wasn't better than a grand, I would have kept it, but I sold it for what I paid for it to a Ford technician. It has been missed.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 10th July, 2006

11th Jul 2006, 08:10

Can't really add anything, but that is a great review.

13th Jul 2006, 14:04

Traction control only prevents wheelspin. It won't help you if you enter a corner way too fast and lose the back end as a result.

20th Nov 2006, 01:58

Fantastic review! Just glancing at one of these at the moment and your words really helped. If only all reviews were as informative.

Thanks!