2004 Seat Ibiza Sport 1.9 TDi

Summary:

A slightly odd car, but I like it!

Faults:

Air Conditioning is working intermittently.

Stereo adjusts volume and 'loud' randomly.

Power Steering went on one occasion - never happened since?

General Comments:

I bought the Ibiza last year after selling a BMW 330ci, in an effort to save money. Having been used to a quick car, but with a reduced budget, I wanted something that would be brisk and economical. The Ibiza 1.9 TDi 130 seemed a good choice in my situation. It met my budget, had reasonable boot and cabin space, offered reasonably low insurance and good mpg and promised, due to the hefty torque, to cope well on the motorway.

In a line the car has achieved the above.

However, I can't help thinking the Ibiza TDi 130 is a rather disjointed package...

It's marketed as a warm hatch, but really it is not! The engine doesn't suit the car. The big 1.9 was surely never designed for the small Ibiza? It always feels to me that VW bolted it on to the car just to increase the range, and as an after thought, firmed up the suspension and stuck on big tyre's to help it cope. The added weight at the front obviously puts the little Ibiza off balance and the immense amount of torque in such a small unbalanced car means big torque steer. The firmed up suspension is unforgiving and jittery whilst definitely not offering GTI handling. And, despite the abundance of torque, 0-60 is well over 9 seconds, again no GTI. So best off going for the Cupra 1.8T (Petrol)

On the other hand if you forget the marketing and just take it as a small hatch it still fails, as for small hatch duties the 1.4 petrol or TDi are cheaper to buy, maintain and probably have a much friendlier ride.

Having said this, I don't think this is a bad car at all (I love it!), just one with limited appeal. So if you, like me, want a 50MPG, thump in the back 'warm?' hatch with a crawling 0-60, hard ride, mediocre handling and torque steertastic 2nd gear, but low insurance then this is certainly the car for you!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 30th December, 2007

21st Jan 2008, 07:59

I agree with your comments. I've got a Cordoba with the same engine, it looks fairly low key, but it is incredibly quick. After a while you get used to the performance it's only when you drive another so-called fast car that you realise how quick these cars are, which is an awful lot quicker than the figures suggest.

5th Sep 2008, 10:16

Why wouldn't a 190bhp front wheel drive car beat a 260-300bhp 4 wheel drive car to 60?

= maths, physics, gravity.

As the previous comment said, you'd be lucky to even get 190 from a remap alone, and then even if you had, the Ibiza Cupra TDI will hit 60 in about 7.6, and the petrol 180 Cupra about 7.4, so with only 10 horse power more, how will it do 60 in about 3 seconds less?

12th Jan 2011, 20:06

I have had my Sport 130 TDI chipped also, it was done by Jabbasport. It's been dyno'd at 171 bhp at the wheels, and it's no slouch. I have had the car 2 years, and had a Clio 182 Sport before it, and I must say the Ibiza is a much better car and quicker too. I sold the Clio to a friend, and we have had a standing start straight race. Admittedly he was off the mark faster, but over quarter mile, mine was a car length in front; he was gutted to have been done by a diesel.

The remap does offer more power, but be sure to upgrade the front brakes as well. I have fitted Audi TT 312mm discs, calipers and hangers to mine (17" rims are required too), and it stops much better.

Don't know about racing a Scooby STi; they are a mean beast to contend with, don't think I'd bother myself!!

2004 Seat Ibiza SX 1.2 12v petrol

Summary:

Small engined supermini's can be fun!

Faults:

Clutch master cylinder required replacement.

Rear washer seemed to lose all pressure.

General Comments:

First of all I would like to point out I was looking for a second hand 'Focus' sized car, to move up a level from the 206, which was 4 years old. At no point did I think new (well pre-registered) was going to be an option. Ford didn't seem interested in my business, Peugeot had found me a 307 that I could afford, SEAT looked unlikely when they told me that Leon's were hard to come by, but then he pointed out the Ibiza he had in stock.

Whilst the Leon was just out of our pirce range, we test drove both it and the Ibiza and fell in love with the Ibiza straight away. My exact words were "That was the 1.2 I just drove wasn't it?", I was certain he must have given me a 1.4 to sell the car, as the difference between that and my 1.1 206 felt astonishing. Maybe it was the combination of the extra 100cc and the SEAT handling, I don't know.

So I took delivery of a 5-door, Platinum Grey 1.2i 12v SX on a rainy Friday afternoon and haven't regretted it since. I use it to potter about town, and do 70mph dashes of about 1-2hrs duration. Both of which the car handles well. When in town you feel you have a very nippy car, and on the motorway it cruises very nicely, although road noise might be a little higher than normal.

I agree with comments that the interior can appear spartan, but the features make up for that, as does the room inside. To have ABS at this price is good, as I can really appreciate having it whereas I didn't in the 206. Also to have climate control and alloy wheels was just a bonus. As for space, whilst it was a little on the cramped side, it did haul 5 people with luggage for a 290 mile journey, and it has to be said the 1.2 engine did struggle on hills. However none of the rear passengers complained about being cramped.

For maintenance I have had no problems. Although the dealer I purchased the car from closed down shortly after I took delivery, our business was transferred to another dealer. However after starting my new job, I found a SEAT dealer almost opposite and a lot closer to the one that we had been recommended. I do appreciate that I am lucky, as SEAT dealers can be hard to find I hear. I have only had to visit them 3 times. 2 faults and one service. All 3 times the car has been returned to me the same day, fault fixed. I was used to having minor faults (broken seat handle for 1) diagnosed on the 1st day, wait for the part and bring the car back 2 weeks later to have it fitted with the 206. Not the case with SEAT. When the clutch cylinder needed replacement they advised that it could be replaced, but was not necessary and that if I did want it done, the warranty would cover it, all diagnosed and fitted while I was in the office.

The stereo is good, with the speaker providing good sound quality. However the dealer said there were 8 speakers, yet I can only find 6.

All in all, I find it very enjoyable to drive, despite the small engine. However I feel that fuel consumption is a bit more than I was expecting, especially as the climate control only gets used on the hottest days.

I am already saving for another Ibiza, rather than move up to the 'Focus' sized car I wanted 20 months ago. Although this time I think the 1.9 TDi PD 130 will be my target, hopefully I will get as much fun out of it and improve the fuel economy too!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 19th May, 2006