2005 Citroen C4 Exclusive 2.0 petrol from Australia and New Zealand

Summary:

I like it despite its faults

Faults:

18k. Air conditioner drain hose not fitted properly resulting in wet carpets on the LHS.

21k. CD stacker replaced under warranty - discs would not eject.

40k. Transmission oil leak, apparently from breather outlet. Has not reoccurred since.

40k. Broken upper brake light wire in rear hatch loom.

50k. Door sill rubber seal lifting on rear LHS door - a common problem apparently.

56k. New front oxygen sensor ($A160 aftermarket cf genuine part $A600).

64k. Replaced broken section of wiring in rear hatch loom (systemic fault).

76k. Slight coolant leak from O ring on heater matrix - replaced.

87k. Replaced plastic cogs on heater control (systemic fault).

88k. Oil leak from oil heater/cooler unit.

91k. Engine hesitation when cold. Cured by fitting a new engine coolant temperature sensor. This seems to be a common problem. It seems the car has been running rich because of this and the catalytic converter may have over-heated as a result - we now have a depollution warning. I am ignoring this for the moment as a new converter is probably going to be required and it does not affect the efficiency of the engine.

General Comments:

Things I like:

Imaginative design inside and out.

Drives nicely, large easily read digital speedo, instrument readout not affected by height adjustment of steering wheel, speed limiter, boot divider, long-lasting comfortable cloth seats, tiptronic auto transmission, transmission lock in 2 to 4th gears, useful engine braking. Musical warning chimes.

Things I don't like:

17” tyres make for harsh ride on sharp bumps.

The transmission would benefit from having 5 speeds on the auto, and gear changes are occasionally harsh. However, it has lasted for 96k km without major problems, which you can't say for some modern autos.

The light tapping noise from the charcoal canister purge valve at the front RHS can be mistaken for an engine noise.

A flare of light from RHS headlight.

Weak wiring for rear hatch.

Has always used a small amount of coolant.

High price of genuine parts.

The French make it hard to plug in a generic OBD2 reader - it requires considerable force to actually get the plug onto the socket. Once on it works OK.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 7th June, 2016

30th May 2018, 03:46

103k. 2017. Broken wires on rear hatch again - last repaired at 64 and 40k.

107k. 2017. Fitted a Mini Cat Converter ($45) on a right angled fitting to the second oxygen sensor to make error code P0420 go away. Seems to work.

108k. 2018. Oil leak from camshaft cover - you have to buy the entire cam covers and the baffle plates within at a cost of $528. A better alternative would be to use silicone. Replacement rubber seals commonly sold on eBay do not fit.

110k. April 2018. Heater fan inoperative. Replaced fan resistor (climate control) to no effect, which places suspicion on the under-bonnet fuse box relay unit (BSM).

110k. May 2018. Car refused to start - multiple errors codes associated with injectors and ignition coils. Replaced BSM with a new unit ($A582) and all fixed including fan. My mechanic considers that the relay units will give 10 years of trouble free service.

2005 Citroen C4 VTS 2.0 HDi turbo diesel from UK and Ireland

Summary:

Nice to look at, not nice to own!

Faults:

Drivers seat belt will not retract back in.

Panoramic glass roof rubber seal detached.

Climate control stuck on hot.

2 pressure sensor valve stems broken.

Directional headlights point towards the floor (Sensor)

Nearside headlight not working (earthing problem).

Offside CV joint replaced.

Windscreen washer pump replaced.

Headlight washers go out, but won't go back in.

Constant "Depollution System Faulty" errors, which the Citroen dealer can't fix.

"ABS / ESP / ARS systems faulty" (Brake switch sensor)

Underneath of the bonnet turning to dust (Looks like rust, but the paint is just flaking off)

CD changer won't eject discs.

There are many more problems started from the very first week of ownership. It spent at least 1 week a month in the garage. One time it was with them for 5 days while they tried to fix the glass roof and depollution errors (which are still a problem today).

General Comments:

The C4 VTS, I think looks very nice. It always stands out in the crowd, and the Xenon headlights look pretty cool.

It's quite fast, not amazing, but it does have a nice smooth torque band.

I have however had a endless stream of problems. Never have I had a car with so many problems. The worst being the "Depollution system failure". Just as you pull out at a junction or round about, the engine cuts out. We have had so many near misses, it's very scary. This car will be gone when kids are on the scene.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 28th April, 2011

28th Oct 2011, 06:43

I totally agree! I used to have this piece of junk for 3 years, and my problems were same! This "depollution system" problem started on the 6th month of ownership, and they were never able to solve it. Not to mention the other problems; practically I had problems with every system on this car - braking, cooling, engine, electronics, AC, lights, and I mean continuous problems, not the type "had it once, fixed it and forgot it"...

I was happy to get rid of this crap after 3 painful years and 96,000 km, and I'll never go for Citroen again. I had a Xantia in the late 90's - nothing to be compared, it seems; the quality standards of this brand have lowered a lot since the 90's.