14th Mar 2007, 16:35

Hi, interested in that writer from Ireland - could you keep us posted on your 1.6 HDi "going forward".

We are in the market for another 7 seater, but not a full size one this time as some of our children are at university. The Citroen seems to be the best of the mid sized MPVs, but I have reservations about the quality of Citroen.

Interesting comments from our friends in the Scandinavian countries, but I don't want a petrol model. Good reviews on the quality issues though.

29th Mar 2007, 22:05

Hi everybody.

I will be leasing a C4 Picasso for about 2 months starting this may. I am from Canada, but will be coming to Europe on vacation and I plan on taking a long stroll around the Alps. Can anybody tell me how the car behaves in rolling hills or on mountain roads?

I currently own a 1997 Mazda MPV which is working great. Does anybody know how the two compare?

I'll try to post a message with my impressions after my vacation, but that may have to wait until July.

Thanks a lot.

9th Apr 2007, 15:09

C4 will feel like a go-kart compared to the Mazda. Every Citroen I've driven (from the AX to the C5) handles like a dream. Haven't driven this one, but based on the past experience you won't have trouble with winding roads. More likely you'll laugh your way across the alps. :-)

12th Apr 2007, 15:10

I don't think you should compare any car from 1997 with a modern car today. The Picasso will be much more sonically comfortable and it will have a superior suspension to your Mazda. However, steering servo is electric while your Mazda probably is hydraulic. That means less feedback from the steering in the newer car, keep your eyes on the road or you will wander off without even noticing it. The new car will also be heavier, but modern suspension shouldn't make that a problem. If you must buy a new car however, I think the Picasso may be the most exciting around in the breed of family carriers. I love that windscreen. That and the soft suspension makes you feel you're in a helicopter, hovering above everyone else on the road. I think I will buy one.

13th Apr 2007, 13:17

Hi to all C4 Picasso owners!

I love my 2.0 Exclusive BMP, there's only one think I don't like: noisy brakes, especially at start and back up. I hate traffic lights;-).

Has anybody else that kind of feature?

24th Apr 2007, 12:17

Hello everybody.

First of all, thank you for letting me know about your impressions with respect to the comparison between my Mazda MPV and the C4 Picasso.

I think, on that note, that the Mazda is actually heavier since it is the American model I have. It weighs almost 1.8 tons.

However a problem now appeared. Apparently the people at the rental agency don't have the appropriate training since they wanted to give me the wrong car (was manual instead of automatic, and had a different engine than the one requested).

My travel agent went into a fight with them and now they upgraded me from the C4 Picasso Exclusive to the C5 Break Exclusive.

Two downsides to this: no DVD it seems and no 7 seats. My family will fit well in 5, but the eventual company won't. That's life. The price difference is over 1000 dollars for the upgrade, that I am not paying of course, so I decided not make to big of a deal for having to use a C5 Break. I heard it's a decent enough car, especially for long distance travel and also it's good cause it's closer in size to the cars I usually drive here.

I will still give my impressions after my vacation, but I guess I will post them in the C5 section of the site.

Again, thank you and all the best to you folks.

Chris,

Montreal, Canada.

29th Apr 2007, 11:37

Hi Guys,

I am from Israel and I just ordered a new 2.0 patrol C4 Picasso with the robotic gearbox.

Since I got used to drive with an automatic gearbox, I am somewhat disturbed of this new gear.

Any specific impressions from this gearbox?

Thanks,

Moti.

30th Apr 2007, 13:27

Thanks to all for your involvement in the car.

As the prvious writer, I'm looking for info regarding the petrol engine, with the robotic 6 gear gearbox.

Anyone knows how this would function? gear-changes? noise?

Thanks.

YL.

6th May 2007, 01:16

The EMG6-auto-box actually works even if it doesn't have a torque converter. It's not as smooth as a conventional auto-box from 1st to 2nd gear, but when travelling at speed gear changes are just as smooth as a normal automatic. You can let up the gas pedal a little for even smoother changes, but you would also do that driving a manual. After all, Citroën doesn't claim it's an auto, it's still a manual gearbox so you drive it like one, but you don't need to clutch and move the gear lever.

There is some wizardry though. The gearbox stays in lower gear both up- and downhill. All other auto-boxes I've driven had to be restricted to lower gears for engine-braking while running downhill, but this one on the other hand keeps a lower gear by default. I've also noticed that it doesn't change gear in turns, it waits until the wheels point forward before it changes gear.

6th May 2007, 13:06

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback on the "Robotic" gearbox.

Indeed Citroen claims this is a manual gearbox.

It appears that it acts like to Automatic gearbox of Citroen/Peugeot.

I had in the past 7 years several Peugeot cars (406, 307 and 407…) with the AL4 automatic gearbox, and it acts the same way in down/up hill.

It a feature of the "clever" gearbox, although a lot of my friends who drives an automatic gearbox don’t like it.

Since I have been driving an automatic gearbox for years now, I am still disturbed of the reactions of the electronic gearbox.

Ill keep you guys updated as soon as ill get the car *somewhere at the end of May…

Thanks!

Moti.

7th Aug 2007, 12:48

Just had my 1.6Hdi with EMG gearbox here in Norway for a week. Just love this car. 500km only, so far so good. No complaints. I was somewhat sceptical about the semi-auto EMG box until I discovered that I should drive the car like a manual, but letting the car change gears, you cannot just put your foot hard down and expect smooth gear changes. So the EMG is fast and smooth. It's great being able to override the box at any time. The only thing that could be better is a small time lag when starting off in first. Spotting a gap at a busy roundabout, I put my foot 'firmly' down and nothing happened for a half second, I was just about to abort the attempt to move out when the power arrived. Does anybody else have this experience?