24th Mar 2007, 09:20

"The Fusion is not a good car. The Fusion is not a mediocre car. The Fusion is a crappy car.

How do I know this? Because the Fusion is made by Ford, and Ford only makes crappy cars."

Well I didn't originally post that comment, but... Giving that Ford's track record of producing mediocre cars that fall apart quickly after only a few years of ownership. Maybe Ford has finally seen the light with the Fusion.

Here's a list of their cars over the years:

1. Tempo - lame.lame.lame.

2. Escort - Remember when Ford came out with this in '81 "world car"

3. Freestyle - Ford make a crossover? bland

4. Contour - Ford's second chance of a "world car"

5. Fairmont -A Granada with a different name.3500 pound turd

6. Mustang w/4 banger-Sorry unless it has 8 cylinders.. it's not a stang.

7. Five hundred - Just like the freestyle. Bland. Too many people were confused what it was. So Ford changed is name to Taurus.

8. Aspire - A car that you pull start. Great car to deliver pizza's. Otherwise send in the clowns on this one.

All of these cars could be OK reliable cars for the most part, most were dogs

Woof.

24th Mar 2007, 09:32

I wonder where you get your (mis) information. A guy at work drives only 3800cc GM vehicles, like the Pontiac and Chevrolet full-size sedans (Pontiac Grand Prix, Chevy Lumina). His family has four of them, and even at well over 150,000 miles they are never in the shop. Nor is 30 mpg from a full size sedan anything to scoff at, especially from a larger, far more comfortable car than the Accord/Camry. So, just keep making up all the "facts" you like. We know better. You must be one of these Toyota-enraptured people, but you have yet to explain any fact as to why they are so great, other than that you are young and believe it to be so.

24th Mar 2007, 09:43

20:11 clearly does not have a clue as to what makes a car a bestseller in America. It's not plastic cladding on the lower panels or huge gaps in the sheetmetal, but reliable cars that get you from A to B.

But more to the point. According to the marketplace, you really should be asking who would buy a domestic since no one is.

24th Mar 2007, 20:54

I personally buy import vehicles, but I do have to admit that I really like GM's 100K mile warranty as it shows confidence in their products. Ford will never do that because their junk vehicles always break after the 36K mile mark.

25th Mar 2007, 06:38

"20:11 clearly does not have a clue as to what makes a car a bestseller in America. "

You mean a best seller like the Ford F-150 or Ford Explorer, the best selling pickup and SUV of all time? Too bad Toyota just can't seem to compete with them. Your implication of what makes a best seller (by which I suppose you mean Toyota or Honda) is an over-hyped advertising campaign aimed at young people who have no experience with cars, but who assume that anything Japanese must be hip and trendy. So they end up looking stupid trying to fold themselves into a Yaris because the computer animated commercial looked like a video game.

25th Mar 2007, 08:26

You really like to make "facts" up don't you? As of right now GM still sells more cars than Toyota, and ford and chrysler still sells far more cars than Honda. Not to mention Nissan sales are dropping like an anvil from 30kft. Mitsubishi might not even be in the U.S. much longer. And Suzuki and Subaru are no sales stars either. GM and Ford's problems are from management and healthcare costs and problems, even though GM did cut a profit this quarter.

25th Mar 2007, 08:26

It shows no confidence, it shows desperation. And as the posts here about Kia prove, a warranty is only good if the company backs it up, and GM certainly will not when someone brings in their Cobalt or Yukon needing $5,000 in repairs at 80,000 miles.

GM warranties are only as good as the lawyer you hire.

25th Mar 2007, 11:04

Honda just wants to make money in my situation. I bought the 7yr/100,000 miles warranty and never had to use it at all for big repairs. Here is how it worked well for me though. I bought a certified 1999 Honda Accord w/45,000 miles and when it went through certification they replaced the brakes and the battery and changed all the fluids. She is still running pretty today at 150,000 miles. In my case the warranty had no use other than the free battery and rear brakes. I should add that many Honda's get customized and raced that I would think it would become an expense for Honda to have a standard 100k warranty.

26th Mar 2007, 08:00

Oh, I see, so that explains why Toyota's market cap is greater than DMC, Ford, and GM combined. The Accord and the Camry are the bestelling cars and America. GM and Ford's problems stem from the fact NO ONE wants their cars. If everyone bought their cars like you claim they are they could easily take care of the other problems, but they can't. Ford is losing a Mustang a minute - a MINUTE.

Toyota has surpassed Ford in sales and will surpass GM this year. GM's only stronghold is the SUV market, one which is in severe decline and will get worse as the Iran situation increases (just this morning they announced gas is even going to go higher).

The marketplace has decided and the imports win. Chrysler will be sold (again) this summer to foreign interests (funny you can't admit this is NOT a domestic company and has not been since 1998) and Ford is going to be broken up piece by piece. Analysts placed Chrysler's value at ZERO because of all its problems and debt. And even GM ADMITS that it is now going to be a niche player instead of being everything for everyone.

26th Mar 2007, 08:49

5:03...I drive a lot per year. I would rather have a 100,000 miles warranty from the domestics than having a 40,000 mile import out of warranty completely. I had that happen already with my Honda. I suspect GM would have warranties covered irregardless in that event by the way.

26th Mar 2007, 10:18

I suppose Toyota's excellent build quality explains why I saw not one, but TWO late model Camry's broken down on the interstate on my way home from work last Friday. Of course, reading the 2006 Camry reviews I don't know why that should come as any surprise. The 2006 Camry is the most unreliable car since the Yugo, and is no competition for the excellent Fusion.

26th Mar 2007, 10:58

08:49; I would rather have a great Toyota car and a 36,000 mile warranty from a stable company than a 100,000 fairy tale warranty from a company that's dropping like a lead balloon.

Good luck with your warranty issues three or four years from now if you own a domestic. GM and Ford would have to start printing their own money to save their butts at this point.