13th Aug 2012, 00:08
Love Corvettes, they're fast as hell. But if you have 25g's to pick up a Vette, why not buy a VR4 or Stealth TT for 5g's, and put in 15g's in upgrades.
I own a 95 Stealth TT with stage 1 upgrades. Raced an 03 Corvette the other day, and he only had half of his car past me, through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd till 100 miles an hour.
If you wanna be like anyone else, buy a Corvette, buy a Challenger, buy a Mustang. If you're a die hard car fan, find a car you like and mod it. 90's turbo cars can take on any car with 20-30g's of upgrades (new turbos, built motor, so on).
Is it that crazy investing that kinda money into your car? Do you think it's crazy to buy a brand new car? I do, when you can turn your average sports car into a super car!
13th Aug 2012, 12:43
I find this extremely hard to believe, as I own a Vette, and we also have a 02 Viper in our family.
First of all, find me a 2006 Vette for 25k that's not wrecked, and I will buy it in a heartbeat. You would be lucky to find a 04 C5 for 25k. We find it hard to believe that anyone would sell a C6 vs upgrade this.
I would even go with a used Viper, save a bit more, and get a car with 5000 annual production. My Vette has had many upgrades and is still very different than a base model. And we will pass you and brake quicker on the track.
13th Aug 2012, 18:10
It is crazy, when you sell a modern sports car like a Vette, you'll get some decent cash back. A 20 year old sports car that's been modded and driven hard? Not so much.
14th Aug 2012, 06:05
So what. I have seen plenty of cars on the verge of blowing up on a dyno that are short 1/4 mile bursts. That doesn't mean they handle well or are better. I noticed a slight hood flutter at 167 mph up on a track on my Vette. I heard super car on here and are you serious? We had a Supra higher on the Dyno board, modded higher HP over our Viper. Again, it was modded. There's no way this car would stay with it on the track. A car can be fast, but handles like crap at speed. I am not saying do any of this on a public street. If you don't like stock Corvettes, buy a Callaway or a new supercharged.
16th Aug 2012, 10:15
Shame you didn't keep the better Corvette and upgrade it 600-1000 HP. Or buy a used Hennessy or Venom Viper. Did you buy the 2006 Vette brand new? I think if I were me, I would have gone for the investment, sold the 06 I bought new, and found a 96 Viper GTS, first year of that model, and found a 750 HP one with maybe 1500 made. Very collectible, low production, and I would really have something. If you could afford a new Vette, you could certainly afford my suggestion.
29th Sep 2022, 07:14
In 1994 Mitsubishi released a lightweight model of the GTO called the GTO MR that deleted the Active Aero, ECS, Tuneable Exhaust and every other electronic luxury except the 4WS. It weighed about 3,640lbs-3,690lbs without a driver and depending on options/year.
The 1994 Mitsubishi GTO MR beat the R32 Nissan Nissan Skyline GTR over a mile in acceleration and trapped higher, it also beat an R33 Skyline GTR over the 1/4m pulling 12.888s. It regularly ran the 402m in 12.9-13.3@102-106mph and was faster than the Nissan 300ZX Twin-Turbo, Toyota Supra Twin-Turbo, Mazda FD3 RX7, and was the only real threat to the Nissan R series Skyline GTR's acceleration and speed.
Even the USDM spec 1994-1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4/1994-1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo (the Stealth TT is the same chassis as the GTO MR just weighs a tiny bit more) have published 0-60mph times of 4.8-5.0s and the 1/4m in 13.3-13.6@100-105mph, and the VR-4 got lighter every year. Stock to stock the 2g VR-4 was faster than the USDM 1990-1996 Nissan 300ZX Twin-Turbo and 1992-1995 Mazda RX-7 Twin-Turbo by a noticeable amount - the USDM Toyota Supra Twin-Turbo even lost from a dig to 100mph when it would start pulling.
My bone stock (aside from a drop in K&N filter) 1998 3000GT VR4 ran consistent 13.2s@102-104mph depending on launch and conditions.
Test with all the 90s JDM performance cars of the time:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/virtual-velocity/
(1995 MotorTrend 'Virtual Velocity') Quarter Mile Times:
'95 Toyota Supra Twin-Turbo: 13.5@106.9mph
'95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4: 13.5@101.7mph
'95 Nissan 300ZX Twin-Turbo: 13.9@102.0mph
'95 Mazda RX-7 R2: 14.1@99.9mph
The Z32 platform was fresh in 1989/1990 but outdated by 1994, even the heaviest 2g VR-4, the 1994 model, ran 0-60 in 4.9s and the 1/4m in 13.5@103mph (MotorWeek 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4) - https://youtu.be/kBTwc8h-cnI
Hell, here's the 1994 Best Motoring video of the R32 Skyline GTR losing to the GTO MR stock to stock: https://youtu.be/KbOKzHXbtL0
People always underestimate these cars.
30th Sep 2022, 17:42
These were way ahead of their time when they came out. But they were massively complicated cars. A ton of things to go wrong and many things did go wrong, the worst issue being with the transmission and its output spline which had a tendency to either snap or strip out. Of course over the years these cars also got used and abused by people who didn't keep up with the maintenance. These are often cited for being "peak Japan" right before their economy took a nose dive. This as well as the Supra and Nissan 300ZX looked amazing compared to just about anything else at that time.
4th Feb 2012, 11:43
You're kidding me right? Yeah, the VR4 isn't the best car around, that's a fact. Yeah, they ain't making them any more, but at around 4-8k for one vs a newer Vette as you say, which is an easy 15-25k, it's a no sh%& that the Vette wins in a race. You're talking about 25k car vs a older 8k tops. Now if the VR4 had about 5k even put in it, bye bye Vette, and that's a fact.
I own a 93 VR4. There ain't no Mustang V6 that is hanging with me. I even put down the 2001/2002 SVT Cobras...
All in all, the VR4 is a good car.