2002 Renault Clio 172 cup sport from UK and Ireland

Summary:

High performance, low quality

Faults:

The car rattles a lot, especially the glove compartment and the driver's side of the dash board.

My steering wheel has started to creak when parking, or turning when moving slowly.

The car pulls around all over the place when driving normally, and there is a bit of a vibration in the steering. It does it slow and high speeds. Its driving me crazy and it's a little dangerous too. I know the tyre's are big and the suspension is lower, but its really bad and I am very concerned. I've come close to having an accident a few times.

It also pulls vigorously to the left when braking.

When turning slowly over a bumpy surface I can hear some kind of squeaking noise, and I don't have a clue where its coming from.

Oh and the spoiler has cracked too.

I've also noticed a loss of power from when I since got the car. It doesn't move half as quick as it did when I purchased it.

General Comments:

The car was extremely quick when I got it. Excellent performance.

Very comfy seats, started to fray a little though.

Great to drive. Handling can be brilliant at times.

I am going to have to get it checked for so many things. I am a little annoyed, I have had the car only 3 weeks.

The car was previously owned, but its only 6 months old.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Don't Know

Review Date: 18th June, 2003

19th Jun 2003, 02:27

Check the wheels after a longer ride on highway without noticeable braking. Your wheels should be normal temperature.

Nevertheless, if they are hot you have a cylinder stuck. This might be the reason for pulling one side when braking and also the feel of power loss.

2002 Renault Clio Expression 2003ed. 1.4 - 16v from Costa Rica

Summary:

Great car in a small package!

Faults:

Water ran into the trunk through a crack of sorts in the solder with the first rains after purchase.

A fuse blew before the 1,000 km and had to have the car towed away by the dealer's service trucks.

General Comments:

Besides the initial two glitches the car has been awesome.

After driving a Nissan Pathfinder for some years it was great pleasure to return to real driving, feeling every curve of the road and gnawing at straight highways.

Sure enough with a 1.4 engine with 100 horse power you can't expect to be the fastest thing on the road, but at least it beats all the SUV and is a good competition to most cars on the road.

The Clio's handling on curvy, wet roads and in emergency breaking situations is unlike anything I had experienced before. This is really the car for mountainous (but paved) terrain.

As to fuel economy I can't complain, with the air conditioning turned on most of the time in urban conditions I am still getting an average of 8.4 liters per 100 km (that's 28.7 miles per gallon for the USA folks).

Overall; smart looking car, could do with a little more engine power, feels Good to drive it!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 19th May, 2003

2002 Renault Clio 172 Cup 2.0i petrol from UK and Ireland

Summary:

Fun hot hatch with reliability/dealer problems

Faults:

Passenger seat runners were very loose and had to be replaced.

Oil leak from power steering.

The rear brake pads stick to the brake disk when the car is left standing and it rains!

The alarm sometimes doesn't arm when the key-fob is pressed.

The engine sometimes doesn't start after a long journey. The starter motor turns over, but it doesn't seem to have a spark.

The most annoying fault is a knocking from the front right suspension (which gets worse by the day).

General Comments:

Good points first. If you are after a seriously 'fun' car then this is it. Find a decent B road, put your foot down (keeping within the speed limit off course!) and you will have the biggest grin on your face. This is a true track-day car and cheap as well. Performance and handling are exceptional.

This car is only 6 months old and it has had numerous faults so build quality and reliability are poor (see faults!).

Another bad point are the dealers. Avoid if you can, but no doubt you will be visiting them sooner rather than later. I took my car to my local dealer to fix the suspension and brake problem. They couldn't fix the suspension problem because they didn't know how. The dealer phoned up Renault, but they didn't know how to fix it either! Apparently the sticking brake fault is a 'feature' of 172 cup's, although I don't believe that.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 19th May, 2003

2nd Jul 2003, 04:34

I have not got a Clio CUP, but was thinking of buying one soon. I have read many other articles about it lately and they all seem to praise the reliability of the Clio Cup!

I used to have a Golf GTI, but 4 years ago I bought a Clio 1.6 16v 3 door. It only had 1 problem from new which was the rear wiper that came on with the front wipers, but this was covered under the warranty. Otherwise I LOVE it and it has given me 40K of trouble free miles. I can't believe that the CUP is so different.

I have beaten many Citroen saxos, Peugeot 205 1.6s and XR2s etc. I would agree that the Renault dealers can seem unable or unwilling to find any problems. There seems to be a barrier between the car owner and the engineers, so getting across any slight intermittent problems is near impossible.

I shall hold back on buying a Cup in case I come across any other bad reports, but so far the majority of owners seem delighted.

P

P.S Even being heavy footed most of the time I get 43MPG which I think is brilliant.