29th Dec 2007, 07:40
I believe more people will be attracted to the 2008 hybrid GM Tahoe 6 liter V8 which gets 21 mpg in the city (same mpg city as the 4 cyl. Camry) this is also slated to also be introduced in the new Silverado's and has won the Green Vehicle award. Now you still have outstanding comfort, better technology, performance, features better warranty and great towing as well as the fuel mileage concern. Time to sell the Camry... The newest GM domestics are outstanding.
29th Dec 2007, 17:57
I want to express my appreciation to Steve for now listing the percentage of reviewers who would and would NOT buy from the same manufacturer again. This seems to be the final nail in the coffin for the Camry fans who keep maintaining (without a shred of evidence) that the Camry is somehow better than Ford.
In checking the statistics, less than HALF the 2003-2007 Camry owners say they would buy another Toyota, while fully 80+ percent of 2003 Ford Taurus owners would buy another Ford. I also found it very interesting that the further you went back from 2006 toward 2003 in the Taurus reviews, the BETTER the percentage of good reviews got, while ALL the Camry reviews are pretty awful and get WORSE the further back you go. This goes to show that for at least the past 5 years the Ford Taurus has proven to be a FAR better car overall than the Camry. Domestics aren't GETTING better, they have been for years!!
30th Dec 2007, 04:45
I had the Pontiac 6000LE 4 door sedans with fantastic engines in my company cars for a while, as did several sales mgrs and they were indestructible. Probably too good and discontinued.
Some of us liked our cars so much we bought them for personal cars afterwards from the company with high mileage for our families. Also that same 3.8 engine was utilized for marine use and was in my first I/O boat I ever owned. It would run all day, very thrifty, absolutely no issues and is probably runnng to this day.
I also owned a 1990 Bonneville LE; sold it at 160,000 miles still running new. It had a great suspension, same engine and instrumentation and options were great. It had the trans rebuilt and repainted, and it is still being commuted to work every day by the individual I sold it to. They love the car.
My mother drives a 1995 Century with over 100,000 miles on it; same engine. My father has a 1988 Lincoln Towncar with 160,000 miles on it; both running great. His biggest outlay was a new top and leather seat repair. But it runs like new, a different engine, but still a great well maintained car.
The most durable of all was my Grandmother's 1964 Plymouth Savoy Slant 6 Pushbutton automatic that everyone drove. I personally drove it the entire Skyline Drive and back, and it was kept til 1995 til she went into a nursing home. I would not be surprised if it's not still out there.
None of these cars are worth much with the mileage on them today, but they have cost very little to maintain. I am sure there are many others that have had similar long term ownership since new with many great domestics as well.
30th Dec 2007, 09:55
Just to clarify the engine in my fathers Town Car is still all original.
The Pontiac 6 cylinder commented previously is also a great running engine.
By the way, I'd love to drive the new aluminum Pontiac V8's, but I am sure I would end up with tickets.
3rd Jan 2008, 17:18
You'd end up with tickets, and shortly after that, blown head gaskets. You couldn't give me a Pontiac for free, especially after owning a Toyota.
4th Jan 2008, 10:30
17:18 I saved a lot of money with a company car (Pontiac) no car payment, free insurance, gas, tires etc (had to just pay tax on personal use) I guess you would pay for a Toyota out of pocket makes sound sense to you? I had no blown gaskets... lots of oil changes, brakes, tires and drove many miles daily with no issues with the Pontiacs.
4th Jan 2008, 21:39
The only car I ever personally knew of that blew a head gasket was my best friends Corolla (with less than 50,000 miles). Our family's Pontiac now has 250,000 miles on it. Uhhh... just WHEN is that "flimsy" head gasket supposed to blow?
14th Jan 2008, 12:21
All my friends who own Camry's have similar horror stories. Potential mid-size car buyers should note that the 2008 Malibu won car of the year and is getting rave reviews from the automotive press!
15th Jan 2008, 12:13
The new Camry styling is definitely a big improvement over the previous appliance-like designs. The new and more powerful V-6 is almost as fast as most other V-6's on the market now, and does deliver decent merging power onto freeways (unlike the older V-6). If Toyota could bring their reliability back up and improve their erratic automatic transmissions, they would have a very good car.
As for the Malibu, it has been an incredibly good car for years, but the new styling is a knockout. The tried and proven GM V-6's are some of the most reliable engines in the world, and the silky smooth automatic transmissions are better than any manufacturers. With the great new exterior, it wouldn't surprise me to see the new Malibu give the world class Ford Fusion a run for its money.
28th Jan 2008, 10:53
To anyone owning a Camry I offer my sympathy. I just traded my 2004 Camry in on a 2008 Fusion last October. The Camry was the worst car I ever owned.
28th Jan 2008, 15:41
Well, the Fusion must be reliable, hell, there a whole 40 reviews on here about them. And they're not breaking down yet in the whole year they've been in existence. Ha Ha. I'll take any year and model of Toyota before any year or model of Ford.
29th Jan 2008, 21:33
Thank you commenter 10:23. Nothing gives a REAL picture of what cars are like better than the OWNERS comments.
I've never owned a Camry (I've driven several), but I have noticed an awful lot of them broken down on the freeway as I drive to and from my office.
Since I started reading these comments about 3 years ago, I have made a point to keep up with how many broken down cars I see on the way to and from work. The greatest number have been old Civics, followed very closely by old Nissan Sentras and old AND late model Camrys. I have never seen one single Taurus broken down anywhere.
I'm sorry you fell for the myth and got taken.
9th Apr 2008, 23:04
I own a Honda Accord EXl 2007 and can say it is one piece of gold... it's definitely much better than the Camry 2007. I myself am surprised by seeing so many complaints of the 07 Camry.. I was THIS close from buying it.. Thank god I didn't. I now have 40,000 km on the car and nothing but tire rotation and oil changes.. Thank god.
10th Apr 2008, 14:47
I would like to thank the reviewer and many of the folks who left comments for exposing the truth about Toyota's poor quality and reliability. I almost bought a Camry until I read this review. After reading all the Toyota horror stories I test drove and purchased a Chevy Malibu instead. The Malibu is light years ahead in terms of features, heritage, quality, and design. Thank you all again for steering me away from a potential disastrous decision!
28th Dec 2007, 14:52
Modern Toyotas are just like everything else these days; unreliable electronics playing up on low mileage cars is a disgrace.