6th Jan 2008, 08:31
Huh. Funny how in anonymous print all of these domestics can get such high mileage. Well, it isn't that way in reality. I've owned many domestics; before I was smart enough to start buying Toyota's, and only one of probably 6 of them got anywhere close to 100,000, or even 80,000, before needed major repairs or at least several minor ones. All of the Toyota's however were literally perfect. No repairs. Maybe I just had 5 lemons in a row, right?
7th Jan 2008, 11:10
Gosh, isn't in funny how in anonymous posts import fans NEVER get over 40,000 miles out of a domestic without replacing 6 engines, but all their Toyotas go 6 million miles without a battery replaced?? I wonder who is REALLY doing the exaggerating.
No domestic of mine has EVER required even a minor repair in 100,000 miles. It's also hard to believe that anyone who ever actually owned a domestic would trade it for an import.
A large number of import owners (mostly Camry owners) are rushing to trade for a new Fusion or Buick LaCrosse.
A VERY LARGE number of Fusion trade-ins are Camrys less than 6 years old.
Also, one might consider checking out the Camry reviews just to see how "thrilled" Camry owners REALLY ARE.
7th Jan 2008, 11:19
Comment 08:31 sounds strange. You say you owned "probably 6" of them (domestics) You don't even KNOW how many you owned?? Also the comment none of them got even "close to 100,000 or even 80,000 miles" before having problems. Which IS it 80,000, or 100,000.
You accuse others of "exaggerating", but can't remember HOW MANY cars you've owned or remember if there was a problem at 80,000 or 100,000 miles??
Sorry, but such vague and indecisive comments leave a far less convincing impression than concise and clear statements such as comment 09:41.
8th Jan 2008, 13:35
Wow. I have owned Camrys since the 90's. No problem. My current Camry has 130,000 on it. I am surprised because only until recently have I replaced any parts. I changed the battery a couple of months ago as a precaution. I've done two sets of front brakes and never did the rear ones. I am on my third set of tires. Gosh, the only "special" things I've done is the resistor that provides speed control for the interior fan ($35). Right now I am researching the engine light issue that just came on ($150 so far for O2 sensors). That's it man. On the other two Camrys I replaced only the tires on one.
14th Mar 2008, 20:53
I also own a 2000 Camry LE. Yes, my check engine light is on but, the dealer replaced this under warranty at 115,000 miles. It was evident with the white smoke and I guess because Toyota is taking care of the problem.
However, I still have a check engine light that is on. From what I can tell; I either need to replace the charcoal canister, VSV solenoid, oxygen sensor, catalytic converter, or just don't fill the tank up to full. Who knows... Anyway, I am determined to solve this as my wife can't stand the light being on.
15th Mar 2008, 08:18
Here's another view.
2000 on is when my major issues started to really occur with imports. I went to domestics in 2004. If you find a low mileage older used import mid nineties or older, I agree they were better. If you are looking for a new or newer car post 2000, I would go with a domestic with the long warranty.
I am saving a lot of money of repairs leaving imports in 2004. My last 2004 GM I sold with 85000 miles with only tires, brakes and fluid changes. I also only go to the dealer during warranty periods, and I did that for years with all the imports we owned till lately.
What someone use to have does not mean they are an unequivocal authority on the present. The best way is to be disgusted; buy a couple new models import or domestic, and see how they hold up under heavy driving. I drive a lot, do not buy strictly on price and although disgusted with fuel pricing, I still enjoy driving a lot. I know how I have my vehicles maintained, and am not a big fan of bickering in dealer service shops as well as time spent.
Do your homework and remember car companies do not buy our vehicles for us. I would rather read about mechanical engine trans etc major complaints on here that coincide with many owners than maybe some lone individual perhaps disenchanted with the government and unrelated issues.
What sickens me is taking very good care of a new vehicle, and major issues such as sludging, engine failures occur or premature trans failures due to poor design.
The older imports I had, the best being Legends, were never back very well constructed... so why are the new models not anywhere as good is my comment? My new GM's are like the import quality we once experienced however, and not in the shop.
16th Mar 2008, 21:20
Our 2 GM's are now 8 years old and 5 years old. Neither of them has had any problems of any kind, even small problems like light bulbs. The 5 year old still has the original tires and brakes. I just replaced the original front brake pads on the 8 year old one a few weeks ago (the back ones are still good). Both look, feel and run like brand new. I'm totally sold on GM quality.
17th Mar 2008, 14:53
I bought one Honda after another after another did not even look at domestics for years. Even if the next Accord did not change much but that was what you wanted throughout the 80's-90's another trouble free car. That changed recently and we also started with GM as well. Mechanical issues will make you look around and we did and have zero regrets with our new GM's.
16th Jul 2008, 19:57
I too own a 2000 Toyota Camry... but I have had no problems with it and it has 180,000 miles on it.. The check engine light is on but it's only because of my air filter lid sensor... other than that it drives like it's new still... I like the car personally...It's an import, can't go wrong with them...
17th Jul 2008, 11:43
"...It's an import, can't go wrong with them..." The commenter obviously has not read the reviews on the 2002-2008 Camry, or the host of articles in recent automotive news stories regarding Toyota's lapses in quality (thousands of engines replaced, more vehicles recalled than were sold in 2006, the Camry rated WORST in 2006 in a 4-car comparo with the Accord, Fusion, and Hyundai Sonata).
The Car of the Year and American Car of the Year are both GM, and the most reliable car ever reviewed by Consumer Reports is a Ford.
You CAN go wrong with imports. We DID... 3 times... NEVER AGAIN. No more imports for this family.
5th Jan 2008, 09:41
That's a good point. I had a single car, which was a Dodge, that had 260,000 miles on it when I sold it to somebody who's still using it as a plow truck. Apparently it takes three Toyotas to equal one Dodge. Sounds right to me. I have yet to own a Ford, Mercury, Chevy, Cadillac, or Dodge that DIDN'T pass 200,000 miles.