1st Dec 2010, 07:19

"Employing some Americans and taking the big profit overseas."

Maybe we shouldn't buy foreign oil, because ALL the profits go back to those countries that we import ALL the oil we need for gas from. Maybe our dream cars shouldn't be Porsches because they are imported from Germany. Maybe we shouldn't want a Ferrari either, because we import them from Italy. Maybe we shouldn't eat Belgium chocolate, Swiss chocolate. Why stop at cars, after all, cars are not that only items that are foreign.

1st Dec 2010, 11:54

Heck, if we decide to not buy foreign products anymore, no one will be posting on here, as the computer you are using is most definitely foreign based. Even Dell now is going overseas to produce their components. Although most Dells already have quite a few Chinese parts in them. You also won't be watching TV anymore, because there are none left that are made in the U.S. You can say the same about every electronic device really.

It is virtually impossible to buy all American made products. Even domestic cars are filled with many many imported parts. People that think the support of the big three really saves so many jobs, just don't understand we are living in a global economy. If we close our borders to auto competition and no one buys foreign cars, the big three will cease to exist faster than they would have without the bailouts. The global brands behind our domestic companies produce much of their ongoing income. If they were to fail, the companies themselves would soon follow.

I am not sure why a car rating site, where you buy a car and then post your experiences with it, attracts these type of debates. Just buy what you like to own and what works best for you, and tell us about it. Politics are not really telling anyone anything important to the actual experience with any of the cars on here. In short, you are not swaying peoples opinions of what car is best to them by going on about saving jobs and such. I know many people are out of work and unemployment is a conservatively estimated 10% right now. What happens in the auto industry is in line with what is happening everywhere else in our country... in every type of business. Why would I be any more concerned with that one business than I would be with the rest of our nation's business world? If the companies responsible for these jobs can't do the right thing in order to preserve their own employees well being, then too bad for them. We're all suffering out here, and it has nothing to do with the auto business.

Just move on already and let this one go. It makes little sense in the whole scheme of things, and if you really think this one industry is going to send the whole country down the tubes, then I've got news for you. We are already out of luck!

1st Dec 2010, 13:06

Maybe we should all support local remaining businesses before we run out of decent jobs.

1st Dec 2010, 15:14

The level of outright misinformation floating around out there is absolutely astounding. I don't need to watch some video on Youtube. My Grandparents lived through the depression. Read your history.

Seriously... I don't know what to say to that.

2nd Dec 2010, 18:40

"It is virtually impossible to buy all American made products."

Not remotely true. As loyal Americans, we choose to help the vast majority of fellow Americans and American industries by buying ONLY from companies based in the U.S. Yes a few (often VERY FEW) parts of many items are purchased outside the U.S. but the companies MUST be based here or they don't get our money. All our cars, all our appliances, all three of our computers and both our TV's are made by U.S. companies. There is no excuse to buy from foreign companies. Everything you need is made by a U.S. company if you look. Buying from foreign companies does absolutely NOTHING to help the U.S. economy or its citizens.

2nd Dec 2010, 18:47

After the depression era, I was born and we prospered, especially the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. Nice standard of living. Now we drive little bean shaped cars around.

3rd Dec 2010, 12:54

Yeah, and my great grandparents lived through it, and we speak of it quite often, and even they know the lies.

It is right in your face everywhere you turn, and all I know to say to you is one day you will find out the hard way. Don't say you were not given warning.

3rd Dec 2010, 15:12

So your company is based here, but 100% of their product is imported from China, as so many companies are these days. Who are you supporting? You guessed it... China! Even if the company based here gets profits from their products, who really benefits from that? They all but sold out to foreign based labor so they aren't creating jobs here. Their profits are just that... theirs. You are so loyal in supporting China. Good for you.

I am living in the real world, where admittedly there are very few American products left. Even the domestic auto industry is continually looking to outsource their labor and build factories in other countries. It is really helping these other countries and their communities, but it does little to help our dying cities like Detroit.

Unfortunately the illusion of loyalty is just that... an illusion. There is nothing left to be loyal to. If the companies you claim to be so American, really cared about more than their bottom line, they would still be producing their goods here with U.S. employees. If your idea of loyalty is supporting Chinese, Canadian and Mexican workers and their surrounding communities, then by all means Go American!! Do not come on here and claim you are such a loyal American though. You are just like the rest of us. My Toyota is more American than your Ford these days. At least the workers that built it are getting a paycheck here in the U.S., where they spend their money and support their local communities.

4th Dec 2010, 06:18

But afterwards we prospered, drove great American cars, and were not flooded with cheap labor and imports. The baby boomers on here miss the many years of higher quality of life. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I despise the current loss of jobs overseas, and the loss of a higher standard of life. With the depression you could rebuild. Now it's less and less.

4th Dec 2010, 14:05

"Even the domestic auto industry is continually looking to outsource their labor and build factories in other countries"

I think foreign PR people are pushing this myth, but it IS a myth. Ford is moving production of the Fusion back to the U.S., GM is moving production of several car lines back to the U.S., and Chrysler is opening a new plant in Michigan (part of the U.S. the last time I looked). All of the Big Three car makers have ADDED thousands of U.S. jobs recently, and are planning to add many more now that the myth of Japanese car superiority has been thoroughly refuted.