19th Aug 2011, 13:13
I have a 2010 Ford SEL AWD with 36000 miles and no brake issues. I love this crossover. I had issues with Honda disc brakes, as the rears wore out faster than the fronts. I also had trans issues, which stopped the car without using the brakes!
19th Aug 2011, 20:40
A lot of energy is being devoted to a 1992 Camry that I saw many for sale in the 1200 to 2000 dollar price range as of today. If you can escape any sizable repair at this point, keep it.
22nd Aug 2011, 08:05
That is why you can upgrade your brakes with aftermarket drilled or slotted rotors and brakes. I typically find issues with brakes due to not installing by hand with a torque wrench vs. warping the rotors. I find it cheaper to do upgrades in my domestics vs. major mechanical outlays on imports I have had. I went through a lot of Honda brakes.
22nd Aug 2011, 12:14
My Mother actually owned a 92 Camry all throughout the time I was in middle and high school. We lived in a fairly rural area with rough roads and pot holes. Since we lived so far out from everything, we drove it a lot. We put close to 240,000 miles on that car before we sold it to a family friend who I believe still owns it. In all that time, we only had one problem, which was that the cassette player stopped working at around 200,000 miles. Other than that... nothing.
Compared to other cars in its class, it was far ahead of the rest. The 4 cylinder engine had tons of power, was extremely quiet and balanced. You could hardly tell the car was running when it was on.
The one complaint I'd have was that the paint started looking pretty bad after 10 years, which might be due to the fact that Mom never waxed it, and this was in the blistering summer heat of North Carolina.
I also recall as a kid being very curious about where cars were made. This was one made in Kentucky. Being that KY was near us, it was sort of a point of regional pride that it was made in our Southeastern region, and not in in the upper Midwest or overseas. The alternator, radiator, and most of the rest of the car said "Made in USA" on the labels.
We have had 3 Camrys over the years. Sure - they are not the most exciting cars out there. They never have been. But they'll give you years of honest, rock-solid, reliable service. Now take our experience and multiply it by millions, and this tells you why it's the best-selling car in the USA.
22nd Aug 2011, 17:40
Since we live in reality, you cannot multiply one example into millions. However you can take a collective survey amongst many exact model and year ownership. And form a more realistic view. I do believe if you bought a used 1992 today that runs well, it would probably not owe you anything. But I want a nicer car with more amenities now.
22nd Aug 2011, 19:14
We have owned every one of the Ford vehicles listed in comment 14:22 except for the Econoline van. Not a one of them ever had a single brake problem. In fact, no Ford product we have ever owned has ever had any problems of any kind.
22nd Aug 2011, 20:52
The problem is millions of people who own Toyotas don't have the same experiences as you.
23rd Aug 2011, 10:00
True- not everyone has a good experience with Toyota Camrys, but the majority of people who buy them do. Would people buy them in such large quantities if they were a bad car? Is their reputation for reliability something that was simply made up - as some on this site claim? Nope. It came from a consistently large percentage of those who owned them - people such as my family - who in turn evangelized the brand based on their experiences that created their success.
23rd Aug 2011, 10:43
And again you speak from one voice. It's best to compile as many owners as possible, all the good and bad. In fact isn't that why we read the reviews on here? If I shop for the same vehicle with a fixed mind, all I need is my checkbook. It would not necessitate reading all the comments whatsoever if I buy a motor and a trans... so am I supposed to forget about it? There have been millions of issues, but maybe you had 3 good cars.
23rd Aug 2011, 11:28
Where are all those millions, then? All I see are some people here, obviously not even owning a Camry, but commenting.
23rd Aug 2011, 18:57
The myth that Toyota is the best selling car needs to be corrected. Not in many months has Toyota come close to selling HALF the cars in the U.S. that GM sells (check the facts), and as of last month Toyota ranks THIRD in World sales (behind leader GM and second-place Volkswagen). In the U.S. even Chrysler outsells Toyota handily. People are finally realizing that ad hype doesn't offset 22 million recalls.
24th Aug 2011, 10:35
The situation with Toyota's sales has been numerous times. So here it goes... again. Pretty much all of the major Japanese automakers suffered a severe cut in production, primarily due to an interruption in the parts supply chain. Obviously all cars rely on all of the many 1000's of parts that they're made of to be readily available. Toyota, Honda, and Nissan all use a tried and true system of On-time manufacturing, meaning cars are made with an efficient supply and demand structure, meaning parts don't sit around on the factory floor, as they are used as soon as they arrive. Any interruption in that supply of parts means an instant halt to auto production. Almost immediately after the Tsunami, production of these cars fell by close to 50%, which in any business is extremely significant. This in turn affected their sales globally. Less sales means that GM and VW suddenly sold more cars simply because their production wasn't affected by the tsunami. That's all there is to it. End of story.
"And again you speak from one voice. It's best to compile as many owners as possible, all the good and bad..."
Indeed I would agree, which is exactly why the Camry has over the past 30 years consistently been rated as one of the best family sedans on the market by various consumer magazines that do exactly as you said - compile data from the millions of owners of these vehicles. Sure - the Camry has had a couple of glitches - mainly in the 2006 V6, automatic, 6 speed transmission models due to a faulty snap ring which resulted in that particular model given negative comments in consumer magazines. Then again, that was almost 6 years ago, and the issue was long ago resolved. But as a whole over the entirety of its existence, the Camry has received consistently positive reviews. From millions of owners in countless publications. Personally I don't know a single person who has owned the Camry that has had any major issues with their cars.
18th Aug 2011, 14:22
If it is so that you actually have worked for Ford, I'd say ignorance is bliss. Brake problems are endemic to Fords. It's not just the Focus that have brake problems, but also the Cougar, 99-00 Windstar, nineties Econoline equipped with ABS, many F-150 trucks have ECU failures, Explorer/Ranger from the nineties have a LOT of brake problems, 98-04 Mustangs have common ABS pump failures, just to mention some cars from the Ford line-up.