2nd Nov 2010, 17:01
"100000 mile standard warranties for all imports including Toyota would solve it."
Since recalls are covered by the manufacturer above and beyond the warranty, I am not sure what your point is here.
3rd Nov 2010, 11:58
"So what you are saying is that when a Toyota gets recalled, the dealership can tell a defective part just by looking at it, or performing tests, and if the parts are not defective, they send the customer on their merry way?"
All I am saying is that I have heard of many people bringing their Toyotas in for recalls and not needing parts replaced. I am not sure how they know which part is which... maybe a code or model number? I know that many times I have had recalled cars, they actually do replace the part, but I think there were a certain number of cars with the actual part here. I know they were using different distributors for the actual part that failed, so it was only on certain cars.
3rd Nov 2010, 12:35
To 16:59
"I think they actually traced the defective parts to an American distributor"
Yes American. You can't have it both ways. Domestic lovers say the car is American if the corporate headquarters is is the US. So this would apply to merchandise made in Mexico, China, India or Portugal having corporate headquarters in the US and should be labeled as AMERICAN. So all the junk that is made in Mexico isn't Mexican, the junk made in China isn't Chinese, the garbage made in India isn't Indian and the garbage made in Portugal isn't Portuguese, IT'S American!
3rd Nov 2010, 13:11
"Comment 12:22.
There ya go, blame it on an American distributor."
I didn't, the fact is the faulty parts were from a third party American company.
3rd Nov 2010, 13:22
I, once again, cannot make the connection from this post to the point of the original post about the defective Toyota part being made by an American third party company. These parts were contracted out to a company here in the U.S. and they ended up being the faulty ones that Toyota is now replacing on some of their cars. What does that have to do with China, Mexico, India, etc., etc?
4th Nov 2010, 09:41
One more time. The profits go to the parent company, wherever it is based. They may pay some of the profit for wages and some outsourcing, but the bigger bulk of the profit goes to the parent brand corporate in their respective country.
4th Nov 2010, 10:22
And one more time - who cares? If George works for Toyota in a plant in Texas, gets a paycheck, pays his mortgage with his income, pays taxes with his paycheck that in turn pays for schools and roads in the USA, then can you please explain why this is a bad thing? If you can do so, perhaps you'll actually have a valid argument.
4th Nov 2010, 10:35
So what? GM and Ford have many many global companies that manufacture cars all over the world. They make profits from them just like Japan makes profits from the cars sold here. Why are Americans so threatened by good old competition? If we all boycott the vehicles sold here by any import companies, where would that really get us? Do you think it would save the American economy? Seriously? Our product lines would fail overseas after their own boycotts to retaliate, and the big three would be in worse shape than they are now.
I'm not so sure why anyone thinks we should close our borders economically when we are already in deep trouble. The U.S. manufactures very little these days, so what products would we actually have if we boycott imports? Cars are just one small part of manufacturing, but throwing the balance of the global auto industry on its ear by refusing to buy an import is a real bad idea.
You should actually be embracing the import technology that has driven the American auto industry to a much higher level over the past two decades. We owe nearly all of the advances in technology to the import companies like the Japanese.
4th Nov 2010, 12:09
So now it is clear. Every single piece of item made in China having a parent company in the U.S. isn't Chinese, it's American. All those recalls that were labelled Chinese goods aren't Chinese after all, they were ALL American. All the tainted vegetables grown in Mexico having a parent company in the U.S. isn't Mexican, they were ALL American. Wow!
4th Nov 2010, 14:51
The wage is only 1 small part of the earning of each car produced. The major part of the money goes to the corporation. It's great George makes his paycheck. If you work for a company, is your paycheck anywhere near the profits the entire company makes? Sure there are other employees, but that is just a small piece of the big pie. Doesn't take rocket science to understand there's a lot of money times many vehicles going to the parent.
4th Nov 2010, 20:45
Already replied to this... two posts above yours!
Think about more than what goes on in your neighborhood. It's a great big world out there! Global economics is global balance...
5th Nov 2010, 10:18
You are correct - wage is only 1 part of the equation. But then again that's not the extent to which car companies invest in operations both domestically and internationally.
Toyota operates plants in the US that:
A: Sits on land Toyota bought from a US Realtor.
B: Uses various pieces of equipment, robots and delivery vehicles built in the US by other US companies.
C: Employs US workers paying their wages.
D: Are taxed just like any other business.
Toyota also operates engineering firms throughout the US that employees high level professionals. They also operate design studios, testing facilities, research and development, and so on.
Toyota is no different than Ford, GM, or Chrysler. As we speak, GM now has two newer Buicks that were heavily designed and engineered outside of the US. The new Lacrosse has a German drivetrain. The interior was designed by their Shanghai studio. The exterior was designed in their Detroit studio. Likewise the new Riviera is an imported Opel built in Germany and sold in China and the US as a re-badged Buick.
Your only argument is that in the end, the final profits go to whatever corporate headquarters of the respective company. The truth is that the overwhelming bulk of the profits made by any auto company is poured back into R&D, plant modifications, re-tooling, employee pay, and taxes. Most of the money you bemoan as going into the pockets of the parent company will have already been spent in the respective operations of that company. In the end what's left is a small fraction of the grand total. Thus in the end your only argument is that you just don't like money going to a foreign country. If that was the case and we never allowed any company with headquarters located in a foreign country to make money, then we would quickly be out on the street, because nobody would be able to afford the products and services we provide globally.
2nd Nov 2010, 14:47
100000 mile standard warranties for all imports including Toyota would solve it.