9th Oct 2006, 15:54
So Consumer Reports just makes stuff up and they are biased? Fine. Whatever you Ford fans want to believe.
Here are the facts: Ford Rangers have never been even close to Toyota trucks in reliability and build quality. Fine, they all get 300,000 miles. I can make up numbers also. I don't have to because I drive a Toyota.
I spent my late teens and twenties mostly camping and off-roading when I wasn't working. I have seen probably every make of truck there is off road at one time or another. NONE OF THEM held up half as well as the Toyotas. Ford, Dodge, Chevy, Nissan, whatever. NOBODY has ever made a truck that withstands abuse like a Toyota.
And when we were done off road, we hosed the mud off and went on long trips to see concerts, year after year. None of the Rangers were there, they were in the garage for suspension breakage, wheel bearing replacements, radiators gone bad, head gaskets, overheating; the list goes on.
The Toyotas, ALL of them, just kept going. We used to literally jump the damn things and they rarely broke. These are stock trucks I'm talking about. So, all of you Ranger owners, don't think that your truck can stand in the shadow of a Toyota truck, because it never could.
10th Oct 2006, 15:29
Great I ride mine to school and work commuting on the highways not in the creeks. I would rather have a nicer brand new street truck that rides better and has more in it. So I like Rangers and there are customers that you will never change their opinion/face up. In 300,000 miles you may or may not still be driving yours I will always have a nice new Ford again. I will never want a truck for that long maybe I would be bored as well. Quit picking on the domestics... they sell more every year anyway. At least I consider everything including Toyota and not be so biased.
13th Oct 2006, 19:06
I'm not biased, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. If you want to drive a Ranger, or whatever, I don't care. I'm just stating the fact that Toyota makes the better truck. Ford has sold more trucks probably than Toyota. So what? More people drive Cavaliers than drive Ferrari's, so what is your point? You can keep buying new Ford's if you like and losing on the trade-in, always having a vehicle payment, but I would rather own a Tacoma, pay it off, and know that it will continue to ride well, run well, and be reliable long after I have paid it off, unlike any Ford.
13th Oct 2006, 20:22
I never drive any of my trucks over 100,000 miles, and considering that Ford's warranty is 100,000 miles and the Ranger doesn't even need a scheduled tune-up until 100,000 miles there is NOTHING to worry about. I've taken both my Ranger and GMC off roading a number of times in some very rugged country, and I have never had any suspension problems or any problems of any kind for that matter. Where people come up with these crazy ideas about American vehicles being unreliable is beyond me. I've never had any problems with any Ford, GM or Chrysler trucks in 100,000 miles, so why on Earth would I pay twice as much just for a name?
14th Oct 2006, 18:38
I'm seeing ads for the Tacoma AND the Tundra for less than a Ranger or F-150, so I guess maybe the business of Toyota "not having to discount" is just as much BS as the idea that they are "better quality". If they're so "superior", how come Ford's warranty is 100,000 miles and Toyota's is a mere 36,000?? Apparently Toyota doesn't have as much confidence in their vehicles as the folks who buy them.
15th Oct 2006, 11:57
I've never understood why folks like to brag about paying MORE for something. Smart people get the better value and don't worry about silly arguments over brand names.
15th Oct 2006, 13:18
If I drove a Cavalier I would be comparing the same price range as a Cavalier. If I were driving a Ferrari I would be comparing vehicles in only that price level. That was the most ridiculous analogy I ever read. I have bought vehicles and intended on keeping them forever and never did. I would rather spend less... have more options... and a longer factory standard warranty than Toyota on a domestic new truck. In my opinion that is the best value. Not everyone has payments when they buy a new truck. By saving the interest charges on the loan as well as not paying for more than they need they can often pay cash. I did.......
15th Oct 2006, 15:38
Drive a Toyota and you and your wallet will see the inside of a service shop much less than if you drive anything else. That is where people get the "crazy idea" that they are the best. As far as the warranties go, I'll let you Ford/Chevy fans sweat over that one; I've had 3 Toyotas and I've never even had to think about it. Drive a Ford and I guess you have to worry about that kind of stuff.
16th Oct 2006, 10:57
No Ford truck I have ever owned has EVER been in a service facility for ANYTHING. How can you get better than that?
16th Oct 2006, 15:46
Sorry my wallet was not eaten up with GMs/Fords and I like their trucks better. I have spent mainly on frequent oil changes, brakes and tires and maybe that's a result of good driving habits as well. Dealers warranties are great so get the longest available with loaner vehicles. I have also owned new Toyotas in the past and had some pretty costly services after the warranty expired as do many other imports. My Acura for example just cost $110.00 just to have the radiator flushed last weekend.
16th Oct 2006, 19:46
Why would you buy 3 Toyotas?... when you indicate that you only ever need one and drive it literally forever? I have a co worker that continues to drive an extremely rusty one regardless of how bad it looks... sure is reliable though.
17th Oct 2006, 10:30
So everyone commenting here has perfect Ford vehicles and never had any issues? Yeah, right. I'll believe that as soon as pigs fly. Probably 99% of Fords do not perform like that. Like I said, people make up stories to support what they wish. Fine, I can too: my Toyota has 60 million miles on it and I don't even put motor oil in it. How's that? Now back to reality: Toyota is and excellent truck. Ford makes a half decent truck up to maybe 100,000, if you get lucky. After that, forget it. Especially if you put them under any kind of strain or abuse, they just can't deal with it.
8th Oct 2006, 20:06
I won't let my wife drive anything with lots of miles either because I don't want her having problems. Once her GMC hits 200,000 miles it gets sold or traded. Up til then it's just getting broken in good.