16th Jun 2007, 06:26

My advice is to shop around. Even just MSRP the Tundra is a lot more expensive then the Chevy. And you can deal with GM dealers, unlike Toyota.

Me personally, based on what I see the most on construction sites, I'll be going with a F-150, I think they look the best too.

21st Jun 2007, 20:09

Of course you can deal with GM salespeople. They have to bend over backwards to unload that junk when people know that they can buy a Toyota instead. Toyota dealers generally don't make deals. They don't have to. They can rest on the more than proven reliability of the product and know that people will buy them. That's why they're #1 seller worldwide.

23rd Jun 2007, 12:47

18:11 Well, boring, ugly, and slow, are all opinions. Nothing but hot air Facts are facts. This has already been stated about a thousand times on this site, but here it is again: imports are rated to be of higher quality, better reliability, better resale value, and an all around better deal by every major car magazine you will find. Most of those magazines will say that the domestics are improving (only when faced with bankruptcy do they finally give a %$#@ about building something half decent), but are still outclassed badly by Toyota and Honda. And if the 'domestics' (most of which are made overseas now) ever do catch up with the standard of quality that Toyota set 20 years ago, which is doubtful, at that point Toyota will be that much further ahead too. GM, Ford (what's left of it), and Chrysler (or Daimler or whatever in Germany) don't have a chance.

24th Jun 2007, 08:59

After test driving many new import and domestic trucks my picks #1 is the Silverado, #2 Ford F-250, #3 Nissan Titan. I doubt the Toyota fanatic has even driven any 2007 models that I just mentioned. Sitting at an armchair is not telling enough. Rambling on and on about Toyota being the best... the best is actually getting behind the wheel and let the vehicle prove itself with a thorough workout. The manufacturers are not buying your vehicle for you. I should repeat that sentence as that is the most important consideration I have always had when I buy a new vehicle. A Toyota label isn't towing, carrying my expectations as the drivetrain, frame and long standard manufacturer's warranty that is in place is what I expect. I have had issues in less than 50,000 miles in my last new imports... maybe yours have lasted longer, but I did it all right and its just not the value you indicate. And they all cannot be isolated lemons that I bought as that excuse gets old.

24th Jun 2007, 16:01

You know what's funny, is that Edmunds.com reviewed the new Tundra and already praised it for its reliability, just because it was a Toyota.

Two weeks later, and Toyota has to recall their big V8 engine in the Tundra.

Then comes the JD Power quality study out, and it shows Toyota is slipping.

FACT:

JD Power's highest ranked full size truck in initial quality = Silverado.

Highest ranked mid size truck in initial quality = Ford Ranger.

Talk about LOL.

27th Jun 2007, 13:05

FACT: Toyota is selling more vehicles than GM.

FACT: Toyota is rated much higher in overall quality than GM.

FACT: Toyota has higher proportional resale value than GM.

FACT: Most, if not all car magazines recommend Japanese automakers above GM, Ford, or Dodge.

FACT: Consumer Reports' list of used cars and trucks to avoid is almost exclusively full of Ford's and GM's, with almost NO Toyota's on the list. (But from what I've seen on this site, according to you guys that drive that GM garbage, CR is only credible when they give a domestic a decent rating, and they somehow become non-credible when they review all of the Toyota's as good).

FACT: Toyota makes better vehicles than GM does. A LOT better.

28th Jun 2007, 19:30

We just purchased a Toyota Tundra Crew Max. We test drove a Ford F150 and a Chevy 1500 also. No comparison. The Tundra has the largest back seat of the three. My 6' 5" son is in heaven. The ride was much better than the ride in the others. Quite, no wind noise, many extras included in this truck that you would pay extra for in the domestic trucks. Always bought Fords before, but the Tundra seems to be beating the domestics in quality and comfort. Time for Ford and GMC to step up! Good Price with 0% finance charge put the price at or below the others.

29th Jun 2007, 01:19

Ford just bought back our Ford Ranger because it was a lemon. That truck is very outdated. Some of the parts are the same for some 15 year old Rangers. That is crazy. Never would have happened with a Toyota. I sure hope there are no other parts on that truck older than 25 years old like other Ford's.

29th Jun 2007, 01:39

Why didn't you compare the Ford F-250? Or a new Silverado 3/4 ton... maybe you forgot theres more than 1/2 ton trucks. Whats the compromise with the Tundra bed size as well?

29th Jun 2007, 13:07

How many people actually need a truck that will haul three quarters of a ton of anything? Very few. Toyota doesn't build them for this reason! It's common sense; if I were an auto manufacturer, I wouldn't waste my money building a truck that only probably 1 in 1000 people might even look at! LOL.

Just one of the many reasons that Ford is going under. Gas is 3 dollars a gallon, so let's build a big giant truck that gets 9 miles to the gallon. As for 1/2 ton trucks, Toyota makes the best one. Chevy and Ford trucks will probably continue to outsell the Tundra for awhile, only because Toyota hasn't even been making full size trucks for very long. But, just like Toyota has done with their cars and SUV's, eventually people will recognize that they are built better and last longer than any domestic, and they will start buying Toyota's instead. It's only a matter of time.

You guys can write in with whatever opinions you like, but Toyota makes the better vehicles, by far, and is outselling everyone else because of it. Printing more false examples and make-believe stories won't change this.

Every manufacturer has problems and recalls, it's just that Toyota has had less of them than anyone else, and has dealt with the problems more efficiently than anyone else. Of course, I can't attest to any of their problems, because everybody I ever knew that had a Toyota said it was the best car or truck that they ever had, and it never breaks; at least not until minor issues might start to occur at about 200 or 250,000 miles.

I don't know, mine have been perfect, and so has everyone's in my circle of friends and family. They just don't break down like Ford's or GM's.