7th Jul 2007, 14:23

12:26-

I never said whether I wanted a recall or not. I was simply stating a fact that there has not been a formal recall as of yet. It does seem like there should be one though, as they are guessing as to how many problem trucks are out there. I would hate to own one of them, as it would never be the same to me following an engine swap at a dealer.

27th Jul 2007, 20:41

I have owned a 5.7 regular cab long bed Tundra since April. Before this I owned a F-150 reg cab long bed with I-6 that I drove for 16 years. Ford has better ride quality, but the Toyota outperforms the Ford in every other category. I may be premature in my assessment of the toyota, but so far I have no complaints. The 6 speed transmission makes this truck IMO. Gas mileage is actually better than I was getting in my old inline 6. My old Ford was a fairly reliable truck, I think I had 3 recalls on it over the first 5 years, all taken care of. Don't make much of the camshaft problem that only affected about 20 Tundras, Toyota has taken care of the problem. I feel I made a good decision in this new Toyota, only time will tell. In response to the comment about cost to drive in first five years, It has been fairly reasonable with the other three Toyota's that I have owned, usually just wear items, nothing major. Hope this helps alittle in your search for a pickup. One last thing to look at is the trade-in value of Toyota's compared to the big 3. Good luck!!

6th Aug 2007, 02:16

Thoughts based strictly on the largest of cabs - Toyota's crew max versus Ram 150 mega cab...

Priority 1 - large cab with plenty of room and comfort, with 2 growing boys, and personally growing up in a cramped hind-quarter of a 'crew-cab'. Basically the mega cab and crew max are a push.

Priority 2 - Functionality and build out. For this one just needs to sit in the rig, without a salesperson, and really take in all the amenities and engineering.

For cab size, Ford and Chevy/GM don't really have a comparable rig to the Dodge mega cab and Toyota's crew max.

Based on price and initial drive, I was sold on the Ram... tight, plenty of room, attractive, and since I only pull a 4000 lb utility trailer and 20' boat; no need for a diesel or 3/4 ton. Started shopping price and features among dealers here in the NW.

Literally stumbled onto the Toyota crew max 3 weeks into my search - after my wife reminded me of my earlier Toyota's (4 runner, FJ land cruiser - each with 200,000+ miles).

Stopped by a Toyota dealer en route to purchasing the Ram mega cab and the rest is history. No comparison in any aspect of the decision, and once again a proud (made in America this time) Toyota owner.

Price is deceptive... yes 3-4K more for comparable equipped rigs, however,... MANY standard features on the Toyota are options on others. Aside from the far superior engineering and basic ergonomics (the Dodge dashboard looked comparable to my 10 year old Suburban), the Toyota came standard with all towing features and much more. i.e. tow hooks, tow pack built into the frame, both 5/7 prong plugs, rear slip differential, etc... all standard. Fully retracting power window versus a shoe-box sized opening, modern dash and controls, tailgate features, power, speed, ride, and of course, reputation (not to mention my personal experience of 500,000 miles on 2 different Toyotas going back over 20 years,... the extra 3,000 dollars was a wash in added features, and in the long run a bargain.

Growing up in the midwest, it was always American or nothing, a simple choice of diehard ford or Chevy lovers. My recommendation to anyone truck shopping is to drop the foreign bias and attempt to really look at and feel each vehicle with open eyes. Now that the Tundra's are designed, engineered, manufactured in the USA, there are no more excuses.

Can't tell you enough how little of a comparison, and how easy my decision was... it was black and white to me, and I'm a truck idiot!

6th Aug 2007, 13:47

02:16 It should be an easy decision for anyone, but some people just can't let go of their 'American' made bias, which means nothing anymore. These are the same people whose houses are full of computers, appliances, stereo's, video games, etc., ALL made in China or Taiwan or something, but for no valid reason, buy a Ford when a Toyota that's built 10 times better is available.

Oh well, it takes all kinds to make the world go round I guess. Hope you enjoy your Toyota as much as I enjoy mine.

6th Aug 2007, 15:19

20:41 is comparing a 16 year old truck to a brand new one. What is up with that. I hope that the Tundra works good. Seeing it is brand new.

7th Aug 2007, 16:25

22:36 A little edgy aren't you? I would be too if I were a Ford salesman.

The F-150; uses gas like a tank, lasts up to 30,000 miles on the original drivetrain. You sell ONE a day, huh? Wow, I'm impressed. Considering Tundra sales went up 146% last month, the ones you sold must the only ones sold in North America last month.

8th Aug 2007, 08:38

The Tundra drinks gas, too. Tundra's sales would have to increase by 700% to match that of Ford. Just keep chanting so it will come true. Also, I'm not a salesman; I work in the parts dept.

8th Aug 2007, 10:04

08:38 Another case of 'domestic owner denial'. Toyota already outsells Ford. Maybe not every single vehicle, but overall, yes. Despite what they might tell you in the Ford parts dept., I don't need to chant anything, it's already true. I'll be sure and rush out to buy a new F-150 that runs rougher than my 10 year old Toyota and is worth half as much after 10 years.

8th Aug 2007, 10:58

Again, I will point out to the Toyota lover that Tundra sales are up significantly this year, but the Tundra remains soundly in last place for sales behind all of the big three offerings.

9th Aug 2007, 08:47

If I had only one factory building my truck, I would understand too that it is going to be behind. You domestic owners should be worried, just as Alan Mutally is and Roger Smith. These guys run the domestics and you guys sit here and not worry when they do not sleep at all.???

9th Aug 2007, 14:09

10:58 Again, I will remind you that Toyota is #1 in sales worldwide.

The Tundra sales are especially remarkable considering Toyota's short history of making full size trucks. They're easily on their way to taking over the truck market as they did with the car market already. I can't wait until they sell more Tundra's than Ford sells F-150's, it's coming, and fast.

I know it, and so do you, whether or not you admit it.

I kind of enjoy being called 'Toyota fanatic'. It's kind of a compliment. If someone called me a 'Ford fanatic', I'd be insulted.