16th Nov 2007, 12:48
I wish I knew of Car Survey when I purchased my last new import. I would have saved many thousands avoiding an Acura purchase... there are so many bad reviews which the dealership never disclosed. I have bought new GM's and have had the best 2 vehicles yet... and a better warranty. I also do not have to buy 93 octane fuel anymore.
16th Nov 2007, 15:46
11:03, Uh, NO. There are WAY more bad Ford and Chevy reviews on this site, and for sure in real life. Oh, and actually, it IS true. Toyota's ARE way better.
16th Nov 2007, 23:11
Oh no and Oh my, but domestics are better. Maybe when Toyota is around for 50 or more years we will see the true effect of time. Lets see the same new vehicle warranty and perhaps I might forgive my last import mistakes.
17th Nov 2007, 13:08
23:11 Well, just because it takes GM and Ford 75 years for the idea to occur to them that quality matters, doesn't mean the case is the same for Toyota. They've known this since day 1, which is why people began to abandon domestic cars years ago, and have been buying Toyota's instead.
Look at the numbers. Think of it like grading homework. Ford has moved up to about a C- from a solid F. GM still gets an F. Complete lack of effort. Toyota gets an A. Honda gets an A. Dodge gets an incomplete for not being able to decide what country they should be owned by and nearly going out of business 3 times in the last 30 years.
17th Nov 2007, 18:00
Building a car without any conscience towards quality, reliability, or engineering does not make it a good car. This is what makes Honda and Toyota a superior car or truck. They are built by people who love engines and will do anything to make them world class quality whether it is a Tercel or a Lexus. People come on here and say that their Chevette or their Corsica is superior to anything ever built by the Japanese and then you wonder why people cannot take you seriously?
17th Nov 2007, 21:36
19:02 I don't think that anyone here wants to replace trucks. What I want is for people that don't need them to stop buying them. The kind of hauling you're talking about is common to about 1 in 5000 people, just guessing. Why is it that I see as many trucks at the grocery store as I do cars? Are they buying ALL the milk? I don't think so. These people are driving an automobile with a v-8 that gets 13 miles to the gallon to the grocery store. That's just dumb. Is this stupidity going to continue when gas gets to 4 and 5 dollars a gallon? And it will, and soon. I've already heard estimates of $4 a gallon by next summer. My small truck gets 22 mpg, and I spend about $300 a month on gas. I've realized that I'll actually save money by buying a 10-$14,000 Hyundai, Toyota, or Honda car and getting rid of the truck. If my truck only got 13 or 14 mpg, it would have been gone a long time ago. It's simply common sense, unless you're one of the people in the tiny majority that actually needs a truck.
17th Nov 2007, 22:18
Wow some of you people are stuck in the early nineties, Toyota quality and that of the domestics is the same now, the only thing that hasn't changed is that European cars are still behind everybody. A JD Powers poll just found out that the top 5 car makers in reliability are as follows: Lexus, Buick, Lincoln, Mercury and Honda.
18th Nov 2007, 15:08
22:18 Well, by the logic of most of the Ford and GM owners on this site, those reliability ratings don't matter. When it was nothing, but Japanese cars on the top, all of those magazines were 'biased', or accepting ad money from Toyota and being bribed, or were just plain wrong. So I guess Buick and Lincoln must now be coughing up money to bribe somebody to put their junk on the list? Which is it? Pick one. Either the ratings are accurate, which would mean that Japanese cars have historically dominated in reliability (which most of us already know is true), or those magazines are crooked and inaccurate, which means that those couple of domestics now on the list are simply paying them off to get a rating that doesn't mean anything. Which is it? You lose either way. Just about everyone knows that Toyota and Honda have always made the better product and still do.
18th Nov 2007, 16:32
22:18 Wrong. Your information is inaccurate. Here are actual facts:
Toyota and Honda do at least as well and roughly 90% of the time do better than the Big 3. I looked at 3 categories: overall quality, overall mechanical quality, and powertrain quality:
Overall quality: Lexus, 5 stars, Honda and Toyota, 4 stars, Ford and GM 3 stars, and Dodge/Chrysler only 2 stars. Toyota and Honda are best overall, as always, and as most of us already know.
Overall mechanical quality: Lexus 5, Toyota/Honda 4, Ford and GM 3, Dodge 2.
Powertrain quality: All of the above get 3 stars except for Dodge with only 2.
Lexus simply slaughters domestics, and Toyota and Honda are above them in almost every category, most importantly overall quality.
18th Nov 2007, 20:28
17th Nov 2007, 22:18.
So you believe Toyota being in 3rd place and Honda in 1st place magically bring 13th place Ford dead even with the best? I think that is a bunch of fuzzy math.?
19th Nov 2007, 06:27
I am pretty impressed with GM especially the Z06 engine. 0-60 under 4 seconds... the Toyota Twin Turbo Supra was decent. Guess I am bored with ho hum sedans especially the wallowy Lexus.
19th Nov 2007, 13:13
Wow lets sell a Tundra and buy a Honda pickup... sorry Ford Full Size Pickups are number 1 in the USA in this segment. How about going over to the car section and debating this.
19th Nov 2007, 20:36
You Ford and Chevy owners better try something else other than misquoting JD Power to convince people that Ford's and Chevy's aren't junk. Look at their 'large pickup' reliability ratings. The Tundra tops the list as the only award winner and has a 5 star rating. Oh, and if you look at ANY other catergory, Toyota and Honda reign supreme, as expected. In fact, in the small car category, the Civic and Corolla both get 5 stars, while no one else even gets 4 stars. Oops, try again.
20th Nov 2007, 05:26
13:13 The F-150 is a decent truck, but no Ford product has reached the level of quality that Toyota has been manufacturing at for years.
16th Nov 2007, 11:03
Obviously you read all of the reviews on this site very selectively. There is a negative review of Toyota for every one of Chevrolet, Ford etc. Buy what you want. But quit making the claims that Toyota is best bar none. It is just not true.