27th Jan 2007, 06:55
Yes, I just checked my facts, and it is an '06 Dodge Ram 1500, not an '07 with recalls on the airbags and seatbelts.
27th Jan 2007, 07:27
Funny, a 2 second Google search pulled up all the recalls.
Just another classic example of the disinformation the pro-domestic posters keep posting.
27th Jan 2007, 07:29
Chevy still screwed up because Edmunds, as an objective party, obviously would have tried to find comparable vehicles. Most likely the Silverado was too new to have a comparable vehicle on hand.
27th Jan 2007, 07:41
To 1/26, 15:54 and 20:11.
Thank you for the clarification, nothing like getting your so called facts right. But let me also clarify that both recalls involve the use of child safety seats in the front passenger side of the 06 Ram. Your misleading statement made it out like the airbags and seat belt could fail a driver in a crash of the Ram, this was not true at all. I will readily admit that the recalls were serious, but only for those that had child seats installed in the front of the cab.
But while we are at it, why not go into detail about the recall of a half million Tundras and Sequoias? Funny how you never brought up those recalls. The recall is for a lower ball joint problem, where in extreme cases, the lower ball joint could separate from the knuckle, causing loss of vehicle control. Have a good laugh with your buddy the next time you see him over that recall, but also remind him that he made a better choice with the Ram.
27th Jan 2007, 09:01
They can borrow my 2007 Silverado SS... if I can drive it as well on the test track.
27th Jan 2007, 10:20
To 1/27, 7:27.
No, your 2 second Google search did not pull up a recall on the 07 Ram for seat belts and air bags, nice try. The original comments that were written stated there was a recall for the 07 Ram. The original poster, in a lame attempt to run down Dodge, made a factual error that I corrected.
27th Jan 2007, 10:41
Oh, I most humbly apologize. The Ram was recalled for OTHER reasons.
Also find it funny that when you do a Google search, there is a recall for every single year and model of Dodge truck. I thought American vehicles were flawless.
http://www.automotive.com/dodge/ram-3500/2007/recalls/t3-12-2-1/
27th Jan 2007, 13:27
I made the original comment about the Dodge truck, and I was only mistaken in the fact that the truck is an '06 1500 Ram, not an '07. My point was that you domestic owners seem to like to minimize the seriousness of Big 3 problem vehicles, and there are a LOT of them, and you like to blow out of proportion any issues the Toyota may have. The FACT is that any one of the Big 3 have had WAY more recalls than Toyota, and for just as bad (usually worse) reasons. Yes, I understand the numbers of vehicles sold by each; I'm talking number of recalls versus number of vehicles sold throughout the history of the company. Toyota has many, many less. That is a statistical FACT that cannot be argued. Numbers don't lie. Of course, I'm sure I'll hear from some Ford owner who simply says I'm wrong, like a seven year old making a rebuttal with absolutely NOTHING, but hollow words to back it up.
27th Jan 2007, 13:58
That is not so, a friend of mine has a fully loaded Silverado that he bought a week ago. If he can get a fully loaded one right off a lot, surely EDMUNDS of all things can.
27th Jan 2007, 14:37
13:37 sure Toyota has many many less in qty as millions of Fords have been sold. Earlier there was a comment that 7 times more Ford F-Series were sold than Tundras last year alone. I would still take a new Ram over any new Toyota pickup by the way. I wonder still why you would want to buy a vehicle that costs more per mile actual ownership with less features. If you rode in a new Ram and a new Tundra were you blindfolded?
27th Jan 2007, 14:42
Really? Edmunds did this review last week at your friend's dealership? How did you know this?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but reviews are done months in advance of their publication. Some cars are even so knew the reviews are done on pre-production cars even though by the time you read the review the actual car is out.
27th Jan 2007, 23:18
To 14:37; did you even read my entire comment before you wrote in you absurd response? Did you pass 5th grade math? Apparently not, or you would understand the concept of PERCENTAGE!! I KNOW that Ford has sold more, I SAID that. I guess this is the kind of person that would argue that Ford makes a better truck than Toyota. WOW.
28th Jan 2007, 06:26
To 15:37; you still have not presented any factually correct data. Just angry propaganda..."like a skinny kid on a football team", and "your Tundra is a physically weaker truck". Wrong. I didn't say Toyota trucks would or will outlast Fords; they already do, and have done so since the seventies. And don't even try and compare engine quality; whether Toyota's engine blocks are made of aluminum or swiss cheese, they still have a well documented history of lasting much longer than a domestic motor, especially under abuse. Ever seen the word "Toyota" on those cross-desert dune buggies? That's what kind of motors are used; no one would consider it with a Ford engine. Because they are better designed from the drawing board, Toyota is able to produce an engine that will handle much more strain than anything Ford has dreamed of yet. You still have presented NO facts to convince anyone as to why they would ever consider buying a Ford, just the childish, angry ranting that I spoke of earlier. Repeating the word "metal" here 500 times is not going to help.
28th Jan 2007, 09:31
The Toyota supporter needs to provide his own factual evidence.
You simply saying toyota motors are the best no matter what does not make it true. Nor does saying toyota made better long er lasting trucks since the 70s, the domestics have been making them since the 30s... and toyota hasn't even made a full size truck till a few years ago.
Your desert story makes no sense, they don't use regular engines you dope unless its amateur racing and they're too poor to afford a race tuned engine. The real desert racers use highly modified race tuned engines, not toyota truck engines. How about you stop bein so hypocritical? You're presenting your opinions and generalizations too just like everyone you keep chiding.
28th Jan 2007, 10:28
If Toyota has been making so much better trucks since the 70's, then how come I never see any of them? However I sure do see a lot of old Ford Chevy and Dodge pickups from the 70s still around, like the super reliable 76 Custon Deluxe we had. (There's a pic. of it on the front page of the 'Chevy Truck' section) Also, you say Toyota engines can 'handle much more strain than anything Ford has dreamed of yet'. What Toyota engine can handle the strain that the Ford 6.0 Turbo Diesel can? What Toyota engine can drive around a 10000 lb Ford motor home like the 460 in ours did? The answer:NONE
You're full of hot air.
27th Jan 2007, 06:50
To 03:29, No I did not make up the story, unless his truck is an '06 and not an '07, but it is a Dodge Ram, regular cab, 2 wheel drive, and was recalled for seat belt and airbag issues. Like I said, my only possible error is the year of the truck.