17th Feb 2007, 13:35

This review refuses to die.

17th Feb 2007, 15:50

And speaking of the 318, my old Dodge Ram with the 318 is still running at over 250,000 miles. I drive it to work every day, drive it 100 miles to the airport about twice a month, and take it 300 miles to the national forest every month. So, I guess my domestic CAN do what you say, although I won't be hard on your comment because you acknowledged that the Dodge 318 is a great engine. Credit where credit is due. In truth, most people aren't going to keep a vehicle with such high miles, but I do because I've gotten curious about just how far this thing will go before it finally quits. I've been waiting for it to quit for 11 years and it hasn't happened. I'm starting to think it will rust away before the engine or transmission ever dies.

17th Feb 2007, 17:07

To 13:13, let me ask a question. When exactly does all of this to and fro tobacco and fertilizer buggy hauling happen? It seems to me that you have plenty of time to spend here defending crappy trucks in the evening.

And as for my Toyota's "life of ease": it's been through more abuse than anything you've ever driven. How many times have you JUMPED YOUR TRUCK? I have. How many times have you been in four wheel low range bouncing through rocks up a hill that a person could hardly walk up? Or driven a fully hot motor into about three feet of water so fast that waves come over the hood? My Toyota trucks have all done this for YEARS. Hell, my 1.5 liter Tercel was tougher than your Ford truck when it comes to withstanding engine abuse.

You think that a full size truck pulling the weight it's designed to pull on flat ground is harder on a truck than what I've done to my vehicles? NOT EVEN CLOSE. There is nothing that tests the all around capabilities of a truck, in every aspect, than hard off-roading. You want to see how "tough" your Ford is? Try this for awhile. You'll be begging for a Toyota when your Ford falls apart inside and out like I know, and have seen, them do under real abuse. The Toyota's hold together here, no other truck does.

18th Feb 2007, 05:24

To 14:11. Let's take a closer look at Toyota's plan to "destroy America". First off, they are building more of their vehicles in America than ever, including a new plant in Texas that is a 5 billion dollar investment. Second, at least when you buy a Toyota, you get a decent product in return, unlike a Ford or Gm, where they continue to harvest money from you through the service department. Third, while Toyota is busy bringing more jobs INTO the country, the Big 3 are selling out and moving assembly overseas and to Mexico. Third, look around your house. Think about where just about anything you look at that has moving parts in it was made; your t.v., d.v.d., stereo, appliances, microwave, computer, vacuum cleaner, the list goes on. Probably most of it, if not ALL of it was made in Japan, China, Korea, Thailand, Mexico, but not here in the states. Guess what? Every house on every street is also full of this stuff. Seems to me that's a lot more of a threat than Toyota BRINGING jobs here, for Americans to make a living on. Am I missing something here?

18th Feb 2007, 10:14

Hey, 14:11.

Do you just simply cut and paste the same union propaganda on every car review here?

If you looked at the facts you would see that Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Subaru, and Nissan are ADDING American jobs and keeping our economy healthy, unlike the big three that are cutting jobs right and left and outsourcing like mad.

18th Feb 2007, 11:51

Your Toyota goes over rocks because it has a jiggly and fluffy weak suspension, so it gives easily to the impact. Like I've said in other comments, with no load in the back, the light useless truck flutters like a butterfly over bumps. How heavy of a load did you have in the back of your Toyota when doing these things? I would assume little if any. The weight would have torn the thing apart.

My father never had any problem with his Ford's or Chevy's running through fields with 2000lbs of tobacco or hay in the back. I doubt you would ever do anything like this with a truck. If all you can do with your truck is run over rocks like a toy, then it, as I have said a million times already, is useless. Why do you even bother to own one if all you are going to do is drive through water and over rocks? Try putting a 3/4 ton suspension assembly on your Toyota and run over those rocks and see how quick the trucks falls apart.

The suspension on your useless truck is, like the truck itself, useless. It can't handle any loads or accomplish any work so you just drive it around over rocks. Wow. We all need trucks to drive them over rocks and through water. That's why farmers own them, not to move their loads so they can get money out of their harvest.

I've seen up-close the leaf springs on an original Tundra. They are the thinnest pieces of metal I have ever seen be used on a truck suspension. It looks like they stole them from a Ranger. You help make my point that people never do any real work with Tundra's. They just use them as toys because that's all they are. Why buy one? It's not a need, obviously.

First you accuse me of exaggerating load numbers, then you accuse me of lying by saying that I must not be a farmer because I have time to post these comments. I'm a fast typist. My father sold our farm, that's why I have his old Chevy. We don't do tobacco now, but what difference does it make? He used his old trucks to haul thousands of pounds of tobacco over the years and he pulled 8000lbs fertilizer buggies in the spring either to fertilize corn or hay fields. You just can't seem to accept these numbers. I really don't care, he did it either ways and the truck will do things like this today if the need ever arises. Your arguments are a bit of a stretch.

19th Feb 2007, 18:28

13:01...so lets use only 1 Ton in the bed as an example. Would you dare ever put that much ever in your Tundra? Its not advisable, but I have in my domestic and sustained no damage. Would your Tundra pull my 20' boat to the shore and then in and out of a steep ramp in and out of the water? I researched all of this before I bought mine. I can trailer a pair of motocross bikes and go off road all day... but what practical purpose can you use yours for otherwise? I still see you can suffice with an economy car and tie down the lid to carry light loads. If you do not strain your motor and keep the oil/filter changed it should last. I could not utilize a Tundra not strong enough.