18th Mar 2007, 17:05

Today I finally got the chance to look at the frame of a 1st generation tundra, and my my! that frame is TINY! my explorer has a beefier frame than that thing and it is just a family vehicle. how can anyone work with one of these things, man wow.

18th Mar 2007, 18:50

Explorer? You mean the vehicle that rolls over more than any other vehicle in America and when it does roll over its roof crashes in killing its occupants?

Yeah, real winner there.

19th Mar 2007, 11:22

Comment 11:28 makes PLENTY of sense. EVERY car and truck in Toyota's entire product line has shown tremendous declines in build quality in the past decade, with ANY Toyota that goes 50,000 miles without a problem or major safety recall being VERY RARE. It follows that the incredibly cheaply made Yaris will be even worse, while Calibre (which is far above the Yaris in EVERY RESPECT) will most likely prove far more reliable. None of our Chrysler products ever had a single engine or transmission repair in up to 240,000 miles. You don't get any more reliable than that.

19th Mar 2007, 11:47

Isn't this review for a truck? I shopped drove a Tundra and then bought a GM Silverado. Not a SUV, not a compact, but a full size truck. Why waste space on irrevelant comparisons... not even the same type vehicles???

19th Mar 2007, 13:14

Well then I must have gotten the other one, because I just got back from taking my Dodge, which has 255,000 miles on it, on a 700-mile trip. Please explain the justification of why I need to quickly unload this obviously highly reliable car, and roll the dice with an unproven Fit, which looks like crap, anyway. Tell us about how great the Fit is when they start racking up the kind of mileage I have on my Dodge.

19th Mar 2007, 13:17

No, he was talking about the best selling SUV of all time. If you're thinking rollover prone SUV's that kill their occupants, you must have been thinking of the Isuzu Trooper. Oops, that doesn't sound like an American car! What's wrong with your logic now?

20th Mar 2007, 08:52

13:17 obviously has done little research into the Ford Explorer or its design defects. But ignorance is bliss I guess.

20th Mar 2007, 08:59

13:14, Tell us how great Dodge is when they start racking up the kind of miles that Honda's get.

20th Mar 2007, 18:49

To all of you that say American trucks do not last.

My brother has a 1989 Ford Ranger with the 2.9L V6, with 373,000 miles, which he drives clear across New Jersey and back every day.

I have a friend with a full size Dodge van that has over 300,000 miles.

My brother also used to work for an auto glass company that had a fleet of Chevy S-10's which were mercilessly abused, but they all made it to well past 200,000 miles.

Additionally, all of these vehicles were/are almost completely trouble free.

I know three people that have had Toyota trucks, and two of them (one with an I4 and one with a V6 model), have blown head gaskets. None of the American trucks I mentioned ever did that, or had any other serious problems, even with all those miles. Claiming that American trucks do not last is absolutely ridiculous.

21st Mar 2007, 10:26

18:49 American trucks don't last. The Toyota 4-cylinder you're referring to is a better engine than anything the Big 3 have ever made. If your whole comment is true, then you are part of a TINY percentage of people who have good luck with domestics and bad luck with imports. It the complete opposite for 99% of other people in the country. That's why the Big 3 have almost folded and the imports are moving off the sales lots like they're giving them away.

22nd Mar 2007, 18:04

No 4 cylinder Toyota engine can come CLOSE to ANY domestic engine. They are unreliable and extremely underpowered.

23rd Mar 2007, 15:23

"13:14, Tell us how great Dodge is when they start racking up the kind of miles that Honda's get."

The Dodge has already long passed 30,000 miles, when Honda head gaskets blow and the timing belts break, allowing the "superior" engines to become trashed. Maybe you should let everybody know when your Honda has racked up as many miles as the average 1980's Dodge truck. We'll be waiting a long time for that one.

24th Mar 2007, 10:46

Research? Sure, my Explorer has never rolled over, much less experienced the slightest wobble or other sign of instability under any driving conditions, adverse or otherwise, in over 80,000 miles. Keep spewing your statistics, and I'll keep scoffing at them. Personal experience versus slanted data from an obvious SUV and Ford hater -- seems clear who is living in ignorance.

25th Mar 2007, 06:32

I will take a domestic V8 domestic over a high revving 4 cylinder with the a/c on driving a hundred miles daily on the interstate. My experience has been otherwise.

25th Mar 2007, 11:50

15:23 Your comment has no truth to it at all. NONE. Accords and Camry's have been racking up more miles than your crappy Dodge has on it for years. Honda's run twice as long and use about one third of the gasoline as that prehistoric Dodge hamster wheel you're driving. Ever heard of vtec? What's Dodge's latest innovation? Getting gas mileage above 12 miles to the gallon? Any Civic 4 cylinder will retire two or three Dodge engines. Sorry.

25th Mar 2007, 19:15

I am 20 years old and I drive a four banger Accord and it keeps on going and going. The odometer keeps on clicking over and over without a engine problem. Much more reliable than our LS1 or LT1's. At 252,839 miles it moves down the road smoothly. I drive 25,000 miles a year and have only had to do maintenance you would do on a car at 100,000 miles.

26th Mar 2007, 17:51

Sorry the truth hurts you so much. I suppose Honda and Toyota need to keep coming up with innovations constantly when they have something that doesn't work. Meanwhile, the Dodge 318 never really had to change from 1968 to the late 1990's. 318 Dodge 260,000 miles, read it and weep. Show me a Camry or Accord that has "twice the mileage". Just show me. I think you have it backwards. The 318 will outlive any three Civics. Sorry to burst your bubble.

27th Mar 2007, 09:52

Talk to anyone who has a Ford Triton motor. They suck, and not just gas. Talk to any GM owner with a plastic intake manifold or 4 speed automatic. Anyone burn up a tranny towing lately? Oh did I say a fuel pump.. Let's see Dodge. Ask any transmission shop what is the most rebuilt tranny. What about differential troubles.

You see the big three have problems, and forget getting a recall notice. These problems cost the many owners of these vehicles a lot of $$. If you're worried about gas mileage; GM's lame attempt on a hybrid p/u. An improvement of 2 MPG and a higher sticker price. WOW. If you want better MPG, the government should step in (one of the few times) and hold the hands of all of the car companies, and make them.

Give credit to Nissan and Toyota in forcing the big three to make a better truck. So does Toyota and Nissan make a better product? It all depends on what's important to you. I don't expect to see many on a union job site (that's a given).