6th Aug 2009, 12:34
Just try to persuade me. Every domestic I've ever bought has failed me at just over 100,000 miles, while my '96 Honda Accord has made it to 200,000 miles without a single repair. I need to purchase something that saves me money, I'm making a long term purchase, and I don't want it to be in the shop constantly.
6th Aug 2009, 12:44
Personally, I really don't care if people hate me or love me for owning a Honda. Every Honda I've ever owned has lasted me over 200,000 miles. The same can't be said for my Fords, Chevy's and Dodge's. Every domestic I've owned has given me trouble. I had a '95 Chevy Lumina, its engine died at a little over 60,000 miles. That's not a dependable or well built car if you ask me. Yet the only repair my Accord needed after 185,000 miles, was a new radio because my old one had coffee spilled all over it during an emergency stop. So that's not even the car's fault.
8th Aug 2009, 11:42
"I'm making a long term purchase, and I don't want it to be in the shop constantly."
Precisely why we stopped buying Japanese cars. Our Honda was constantly requiring repairs. We drive Fords now. No problems at all.
8th Aug 2009, 14:06
Domestic car and truck fans - it can't get much more ridiculous or more funny. This is a Toyota thread, so quit trying to sell us that tinny, unreliable garbage that Ford, GM, and Dodge spew out every day.
As far as convincing a Toyota owner to switch to that junk, good luck. Every single one I know, especially in our off road club, would laugh at the mere mention of trading in their Tacoma's, FJ Cruisers, and Tundras for domestic junk.
We just finished another run - I just got back an hour ago. The ONLY domestics there are Jeeps, the rest are all FJ's, Tacoma's, etc. And guess what? To this day, we have yet to have a disabled Toyota blocking the trail due to a mechanical issue. Maybe a tire popped off the bead or something... guess what else? Three Jeeps broke down this weekend, one repeatedly stalling on the trail till we could get him out.
NOBODY brings an S-10 or some disposable piece of junk like that out there, because the suspension (and the engine and transmission) are chintzy, poorly designed, and simply won't take the abuse.
So... you don't see them on the trail. Same goes for Ford Rangers, or any other Ford, GM, or Chrysler product... and that's the point -- they are cheap, poorly engineered junk. And that's that.
I don't really care if a couple of them are rated OK in a magazine. If you believe the magazine reviews, you still lose.. Toyota and Honda beat them badly every single year in quality and reliability. Personally, I don't read any of it. I don't have to. I see what can handle the real abuse and what cars and trucks just keep on running and running... and it certainly isn't any crap that the Big 3 make. It's the Toyota's that last.
9th Aug 2009, 11:00
Not everyone buys a new truck to drive senseless in the mud. I know zero that do. However I know many that buy full size trucks to renovate their homes, tow and require strong dependable performance to tow.
I am towing my boat shortly. I like an 8 foot bed great frame and hitch. Add superior warranty 100,000 miles, better ride, suspension not bouncy bone jarring suspension that skips over expansion strips over the highway. Better handling, room, ride - it meant no Tundra.
If I were to go in the mud or woods...I'd buy a couple dirt bikes. We use to take our Hondas in a van, ride the dirt pits with them, and reload our old van and bring home 1 or 2 broken. It was fun til the environmental impact took away all the places to ride anymore in our area.
I'd rather have a great truck, tow a couple hours and fish, ski and have fun on the water. Requires a nice dependable truck great frame, tow package, cooling and dependable. So we bought GM Silverados.
Trucks cost too much to destroy the finish, load and cake up the frame, and I know pressure washers do not clean everywhere.
9th Aug 2009, 11:36
I agree with this comment. He's right. You never see domestic vehicles out on the trails anymore. They just can't take the abuse.
9th Aug 2009, 12:02
"Built in the US isn't too hard to find... as long as you mean assembled in US"
And just WHO assembles these products?? Little elves?? NO, they are assembled by U.S. citizens who are paid to assemble them. That means they can pay their bills, feed their kids and enjoy a decent life style. I'd much prefer to pay American workers than Chinese or Japanese workers. I don't know anyone in China or Japan.
9th Aug 2009, 12:14
No one had to persuade me. The cars themselves did all the persuading. After a Honda that self-destructed before 100,000 miles and being stranded on trips twice in friends nearly new Toyotas that was all the "persuading" I required. I realize there are a handful of Japanese cars and trucks that on rare occasions make 100,000 miles on the same engine and transmission. Most domestics are under warranty for that long. Most domestics are now covered by warranty for longer than our Honda lasted.
I attended a truck club gathering yesterday. There were a couple of Dodges there with nearly 350,000 miles on them with the original engine and transmission. There was one F-150 with 500,000 miles on it with the original drive train. Needless to say, there were NO Tundras. our GMC has 80,000 miles on it. In the 7 years we've owned it it has had one light bulb replaced. It even still has the original brake pads, which would be unheard of for any Japanese truck wannabe with that mileage.
6th Aug 2009, 12:28
"What's your opinion on import repairs over 100000 miles?"
I am the writer of the comment you are responding to. Since all of the Honda's I've ever owned have made it over 180,000 miles without a single problem, I have not had any repair costs for them over 100,000 miles.
On the other hand, I once bought a 2003 Ford Windstar LX to transport my family around and it was constantly giving me problems. I bought it used with only 30,000 miles on it. It had a constant electrical problem in which the interior lights would come on whenever they felt like it, at 70,000 miles my starter died, at 73,000 miles my battery died on me, at 81,000 miles my alternator went, at 85,000 miles I had to replace my entire intake manifold (this left me stranded.) And at 105,000 miles I had an electrical problem in which the windshield wipers would not turn off. It turned out to be the ECU (Electrical Control Unit) that was faulty. I sold it on the spot after I found that out and bought myself a Honda Civic. So far, all I've done is oil changes and tire rotations.