16th Sep 2007, 11:09
20 ENGINE FAILURES... ARE YOU DREAMING? HERE IS A PETITION OF TOYOTA OWNERS WHO EXPERIENCED SLUDGED ENGINES, ASKING TOYOTA TO TAKE ACTION:
http://www.petitiononline.com/TMC2003/petition.html
THERE ARE A LOT MORE THAN 20 FAILURES. IT LOOKS A LOT MORE LIKE AN EPIDEMIC TO ME.
"Why don't you mention the THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND Grand Cherokees that were just recalled recently? Did that one slip by you?"
PROBLEMS WITH ANY VEHICLE ARE BAD, REGARDLESS OF MANUFACTURER. I WILL NOT MAKE EXCUSES FOR JEEP, OR ANYBODY ELSE. BUT, HOW ABOUT THE 2.2 MILLION VEHICLES RECALLED LAST YEAR FOR TOYOTA? DID THAT ONE SLIP BY YOU? HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT TOYOTA WAS THE INDUSTRY LEADER IN RECALLS LAST YEAR... DID THAT ONE SLIP BY YOU TOO?
"Here's another fact: the Tundra is a better truck than anything Ford, GM, or any other manufacturer has yet dreamed about making, and Toyota is the highest quality manufacturer of cars and trucks anywhere on the planet."
OH REALLY?
15th Sep 2007, 20:38
It's a fact that this is your opinion driven by hatred of domestics. You're sure the GMC has had many repairs done to it because of your blind hatred of American products. You don't know anything about this man's truck.
Woooooow, great argument, once again. Look at all of the technical specifications the commenter used to "prove" why Toyota's are better. "They're better because I like them and Ford's are crap because I don't like them." Wow, what infalibillity! How are Toyota's the highest quality?
I suppose they're higher quality because...
They have thinner frame rails.
They have smaller frame rails in width.
They have smaller frame rails in height.
They have fewer cross-members holding the frame together.
The cross-members that they do have, have holes cut all across them.
They have smaller and weaker front control arms.
They have smaller and weaker hub carriers.
They have lighter and weaker material engines (aluminum)
They have thinner and smaller leaf springs.
They use car transmissions in their smaller trucks, and put six speeds in their bigger trucks so there's more gears to tear up.
They have smaller axle shafts.
They have smaller axle housings.
They have thinner bumpers.
They can't pull as much, and are not used to pull as much.
They can't handle payloads beyond 600 pounds without squatting to the ground (small leaf springs)
Yep, they're definitely better.
The domestics are crap because...
They have thicker frame rails.
They have wider frame rails.
They have taller frame rails.
They have heavier duty control arms.
They have heavier duty hub carriers.
They have thicker leaf springs, and Ford's are.5 inches wider.
They have bigger axle shafts.
They have bigger axle housings.
They have many more cross-members. Most cross-members are large pipe-shaped box rails that are welded to the frame rails - Ford welds on both the inside and outside of their fully boxed frame.
They have engines made of extremely hard, heavy, and heat tolerant metal (cast iron)
They have heavier duty transmissions.
They can handle at least 2000-3000 pounds in their bed without squatting all the way down.
They can pull multiple tons and have been used for this purpose for decades.
They have heavier and thicker bumpers.
They can be used to do very heavy work and still run on original drive trains for 30 years.
Yep, they're junk alright. I am very confident that the person with 88 GMC has had to replace nothing on their drivetrain. My Chevy is 10 years older (78) and has everything original underneath the sheet metal and was used to do strenuous work most of its life, even pulling six tons or hauling two tons. It never failed my father and got him through hard times.
I swear this site is the twilight zone. Up is down, black is white, aluminum is tougher than cast iron, and trucks are tougher because they have less steel in their chassis. Tacoma's are real trucks because they can barely pull 3,500 pounds and domestics are wanna-be trucks because they can only pull 10,000 to 12,000 pounds. I guess semi-trucks are really crappy trucks because they have triple the steel in their frames and can only pull 50,000 pounds?