9th Nov 2008, 12:03

"When GM goes under, it's going to put a small dent in the economy... It bothers me that an American automaker doesn't care enough to make a car, or truck, that can compare with a Japanese automobile."

GM's problems are NOT vehicle related, but management related. It has to be the worst run company on the planet. It is way too top heavy with too many managers, has too many brands and too many long term expenses (i.e., health care, pensions, etc.).

If you want to bash GM for the way it is run, I will do so right along with you, as it is appalling. But do not say GM's problems are vehicle related, because that is just not true. By contrast, it is Toyota that is having significant issues with quality control (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_engine.html), and people are finally starting to catch on whether you want to admit it or not.

Likewise, you might have also seen that Toyota's sales are way down too.

9th Nov 2008, 12:17

"If I'm the guy that owns Toyota, I'm offering a 36,000 mile warranty, and STILL outselling GM, why am I going to spend more money offering a longer warranty when I don't have to? It's common sense."

Thanks for making our argument for us. If it means Toyota has to "spend more money offering a longer warranty" that is a clear admission that Toyota would have to make more repairs at their own expense. It's nice to finally see an admission of this.

11th Nov 2008, 15:03

"If I'm the guy that owns Toyota, I'm offering a 36,000 mile warranty, and STILL outselling GM, why am I going to spend more money offering a longer warranty when I don't have to? It's common sense."

Gee, sure SOUNDS like it would cost Toyota more to have a longer warranty to me. If not, how would just changing the numbers on the warranty papers cause Toyota to "spend more money"?? Printing costs are minuscule. No, if it would cause them to "spend more money" it would be on repairing all the flaws listed on the numerous consumer sites that the public is now having to foot the bill for.

What it still boils down to is simple: GM, Ford and Chrysler are not afraid that their cars will require major repairs in the first 100,000 miles or so. Toyota and Honda ARE. Otherwise, why NOT extend their warranties too?? If Japanese makers have so much confidence in their cars, why do they STILL have the worst warranties in the automotive business??