13th Feb 2009, 21:36

I don't find this comment "ugly" at all. It's basically true (except maybe the "zillion kids"), and not necessarily offensive. People generally ARE grouped rigidly into pretty tight demographic groups. As a former car salesman, however, I was taught NEVER to categorize people. I was taught to steer the potential buyer to another vehicle ONLY if it appeared that they could not AFFORD what they were looking at. If I walked onto a dealer's lot to look at a Mustang and was told it might be better if I looked at a Fusion, I would tell the salesman where to stick it and leave.

14th Feb 2009, 04:07

I wonder if you took a consensus at any of the 3 boat ramps at Lake Havasu, Az. how much if any of the above comment is remotely accurate?

I am personally in agreement with "honkin trucks" that are small and large with ridiculous body lifts, 36" tires and tacky flash and trim. I have actually removed emblems for cleaner lines. I do believe in performance upgrades hidden under the hood.

Sacrificing ride and handling quality with the big lifts and tires is a waste. I had gone through that phase with 1 full size long ago and found a uninterrupted 8 foot bed, the lower the height the better, with nice street tires is the nicest trucks.

If you drive short distances or are caught up in adding tacky trim and lifts, that's your prerogative and your money. I am just giving my own observation on what makes a nice full size truck to drive distances with and without tow loads.

As far as conservative who drives small Toyotas.... perhaps families that cannot afford high end beer, have young families, elderly Camry owners that maybe shop frequently at Walmart. Sounds ugly but my observation is a more likely scenario. Walmarts sales volume was also up last year likely from the economy oriented folk shopping there.