30th Mar 2013, 14:32
"1980 Delta '88. Boy was that a fugly car. Just a big box on wheels."
I love the 'Box' style cars - Delta 88, Chevy Caprice, Mercury Grand Marquis, etc. I find the new cars you mentioned - Cadillac CTS, etc - unappealing.
It's all a matter of taste, but the big three-box design afforded tremendous roominess and safety in an essentially very economical platform.
29th Mar 2013, 23:27
The only misinformation here is your same opinions that sabotaged the Lincoln Continental thread.
First of all, manufacturers did not just "slap" emissions equipment on older designed engines. There were many different new V8's that GM had engineered to meet the CAFE and EPA bull crap of that era.
Pontiac had a 301, Chevy had a 305, Olds had a 265 and 307 also, and Cadillac had a 425. All of which were rock solid and durable. If you still wanted performance in the late 70's, Pontiac still had that to offer with a 6.6 litre in the Trans Am and Grand Prix, and let's not forget the early turbo powered Regals and soon to follow Grand National (there's a slow one for ya).
I guess your grandmother's LeSabre must be one of a kind, seeing how the plugs on the 3800 motor are quite easy to replace; this goes for every full-size car it was used for. The whole job should take less than 20 minutes. If you want a nightmare V6 to change plugs on; go for certain Toyotas with the 3.0-3.5 engines, where you have to remove the top part of the intake just to remove the back 3 plugs.
Those "fugly" Delta 88's from that era are becoming more desirable as time goes on to collectors or somebody who wants a weekend cruiser. In my opinion they definitely were better looking than any import luxury car of that day, or today.
Oh - and one more thing, Cadillac's glory days did not represent plastic small non-V8 engine cars with no interior space. Good for you if you like the ATS and CTS; I'll continue to adore a formal and elegant looking 1980 Coupe DeVille.