26th Oct 2009, 11:31

Yeah, missing the point seems to be the specialty on here with many people coming up with "unpatriotic" claims because of the type of car someone drives, while completely forgetting that even their own Ford or Chevy cars have foreign based parts in them, and would not exist without foreign technology... not to mention the cell phones you listed and virtually every other electronic or mechanical device known to man. Even most of our clothes aren't manufactured here.

I agree with you that the site should be about what you like or dislike about your particular car and that is that. If people want to rant about Hondas being better, then go to the Honda thread... and vice versa.

26th Oct 2009, 15:56

Honda has a 5 year, 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. This is the national average of 12,000 miles a year. This warranty is based on the average time a person owns a car, which is about 5 years FOR MOST of the population. NOT ALL, but MOST. That warranty is more than sufficient. But if you want to talk about a real warranty, try Hyundai's at 10 years, 100,000 miles. It was the imports that invented that huge warranty. The domestic companies just use it as an incentive.

27th Oct 2009, 11:50

Yes the "excellent" CNN would never sensationalize the news to make you watch it. Aren't they just one of the many that keep telling us the recession is over, even though jobs are being lost at around half a million per quarter still? Next they'll be telling you about that bridge in Brooklyn they want to sell you.

Stay on the "buy domestic" soapbox all you want. Just don't complain when you are paying over 50% of your income in taxes to "help your own country"... Taxes are quickly on the rise to cover the incompetence of many large businesses in the U.S., including your favorite auto makers and their inability to run profitable businesses. Ford is the only one that hasn't tapped your tax money... yet... but they aren't much better off then the others.

So go ahead, keep the "dream" alive by supporting these sandbag corporations that are dragging us down quick! Just don't blame Honda for the economic woes of America... Blame the domestic companies that have sapped this country dry. We made our own problems, not Japan.

27th Oct 2009, 12:02

Okay, now go look around your house and list all of the Made in U.S.A. items you have. I would ask you to list the imported items, but that list will be wayyy longer than your list of domestic goods. So, until you sell all of your belongings, including the computer you posted this on, that is littered with imported parts, stop telling other people they need to "control their situation"...

Oh, and I hope when you bought your two new GM's that you didn't get a Saturn Vue with a Honda V-6 in it? That would be just downright confusing wouldn't it? How can you support a company, such as GM, who in turn supports Honda by using their components in their own cars? Even GM sends a lot of money to Japan by using their parts!!

I can't understand why everyone is so quick to shut down our borders and quit trading with any foreign companies. I guess no one thinks about the devastating impact that would really have on this country and the rest of the world. Shortsighted at best. If our companies were really that good, they would be trading as many of their autos to all of the countries that we import from and things would be equal. Maybe they should have ramped up that quality over the past few decades instead of the past few years... on a select few models.

27th Oct 2009, 14:25

People have TOTAL control over what they buy. If they choose to buy from foreign companies it is simply because they don't care enough about our country to buy from our own companies. It's as simple as that. The computer I'm typing this on was built 5 miles from my home and has three times the warranty of a typical Japanese computer. All my appliances and electronics (including my cell phone) are domestic. I bother to support our country by taking the time to find products made by our own industry.

I don't know why people would prefer to bash our own country than wake up to the fact that every dollar sent to China or Japan is another step toward unemployment for Americans.

27th Oct 2009, 15:20

In my opinion The Fusion Guy just doesn't get it.

I disagree with and am offended by virtually everything he has posted.

I own a domestic built in Toledo, Ohio (not Mexico like his "Domestic" Ford) but since my Jeep is equipped with a Japanese transmission, I guess that makes me an "unpatriotic" subversive.

27th Oct 2009, 16:20

It's definitely short sighted. To shut down our borders to the rest of the world wouldn't help our economy, it would worsen it. And you're right about domestic companies only making a select few models that actually compete with the imports. The Fusion? That's great that it beat out Honda and Toyota, but where is the rest of the Ford line-up?

28th Oct 2009, 06:13

I agree with you and admit our family is at fault buying import cars. We have 3 relatively new cars and our last Honda goes next. I bought my Vette made in Kentucky. Like it much better than Acura.

28th Oct 2009, 11:33

Just read a new article on reliability, and yes the Fusion does score above the Camry and Accord in reliability tests. However, the 4 cylinder Fusion came in below the Toyota Prius in reliability, and in actuality the 5 brands that are overall leaders in quality are all Asian. Ford scored big with this one car, but across the board, imports still are ahead in overall quality.

GM and Chrysler weren't even close. When Ford has a whole line of cars that can compete with import brands, and they can hold that #1 ranking across the board for years, then we can rejoice that America is finally building a competent auto against the foreign competition.

We have a ways to go yet though.

28th Oct 2009, 14:25

So you can verify that every last component of your electronics is made in U.S.A.? I doubt it. Yes your computer may be assembled 5 miles away from your home, but don't for a second think they don't use imported parts for some of the internal components. Even domestic brand name stuff is all made overseas these days, and it is very hard to find anything that is 100% domestic anymore.

28th Oct 2009, 14:38

So who do you buy your cars from? GM, who has partnered with Toyota on multiple cars and used Honda parts in others. Ford, who has had joint ventures with Mazda. Chrysler, who wouldn't even exist without Diamler and now Fiat. What is so patriotic about buying from these companies who have mixed imported vehicles and parts into their lines for decades? I know for a fact that whatever car is in your garage has MANY imported parts throughout and there is no denying it. So why is buying one thing unpatriotic and not another?

Plus, people seem to overlook how the domestic companies outsource much of their manufacturing jobs to Canada and Mexico to save money. That affects U.S. workers even more than buying a Honda that was built in a U.S. plant. Now you are supporting a company that doesn't even want to provide jobs to your country if they can get cheaper labor elsewhere!! The Fusion is a great example. Not one assembly job is created by this top ranked car as it is built in Mexico. Way to go Ford!!